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Old 08-23-2013, 08:00 PM
 
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....weaklings keep moving the line out of fear.

Obama about a year ago.....At the National Defense University, he said: "The use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable." Switching to speak directly to Syrian president Bashir al-Assad, he continued: "If you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable."

Today...."Sometimes what we've seen is that folks will call for immediate action, jumping into stuff, that does not turn out well," he said. "We have to think through strategically what's going to be in our long-term national interests, even as we work cooperatively internationally to do everything we can to put pressure on those who would kill innocent civilians."

The U.S. has called on Syria to allow the U.N. team currently on the ground to investigate this most recent attack. (sound familiar?)However, the president was pessimistic about those prospects, saying, "We don't expect cooperation, given their past history."

Don't come on here saying that "he's being thoughtful and thinking it through", you know it's because he has no polls that show getting involved in Syria is popular. I, for one, wished that he had kept his mouth shut.

When a leader with character and conviction draws a line in the sand, there are usually repercussions.

If you're too big of a coward to do something, don't draw a line in the sand.

Obama is nothing but a coward who only acts when polls tell him that the time is right.
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:22 PM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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Just MHO.......We are involved in a proxy war with Russia at this point. Putin has been building naval bases for the Russian fleet in, and supplying weapons too, the Syrians for the past few years to project their power into the Mediterranean. That is counter to the interests of the "western" allies, and Israel. At some point that proxy part may go away and then the real shooting will start. Can you say....... WW III?

Obama may just capitulate and hand us over. Sad to say, Putin is a dozen times the leader that Obama could ever hope to be.

YC.......
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:26 PM
 
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Just MHO.......We are involved in a proxy war with Russia at this point. Putin has been building naval bases for the Russian fleet in, and supplying weapons too, the Syrians for the past few years to project their power into the Mediterranean. That is counter to the interests of the "western" allies, and Israel. At some point that proxy part may go away and then the real shooting will start. Can you say....... WW III?

Obama may just capitulate and hand us over. Sad to say, Putin is a dozen times the leader that Obama could ever hope to be.

YC.......
Unfortunately, I never thought I would admire a Russian leader more than an American President.

We have a wishy-washy limp wristed president and everyone knows it.

Especially after the "line in the sand" has been crossed with no action.

Talk the talk, walk the walk.
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:48 PM
 
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....weaklings keep moving the line out of fear.

Obama about a year ago.....At the National Defense University, he said: "The use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable." Switching to speak directly to Syrian president Bashir al-Assad, he continued: "If you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable."

Today...."Sometimes what we've seen is that folks will call for immediate action, jumping into stuff, that does not turn out well," he said. "We have to think through strategically what's going to be in our long-term national interests, even as we work cooperatively internationally to do everything we can to put pressure on those who would kill innocent civilians."

The U.S. has called on Syria to allow the U.N. team currently on the ground to investigate this most recent attack. (sound familiar?)However, the president was pessimistic about those prospects, saying, "We don't expect cooperation, given their past history."

Don't come on here saying that "he's being thoughtful and thinking it through", you know it's because he has no polls that show getting involved in Syria is popular. I, for one, wished that he had kept his mouth shut.

When a leader with character and conviction draws a line in the sand, there are usually repercussions.

If you're too big of a coward to do something, don't draw a line in the sand.

Obama is nothing but a coward who only acts when polls tell him that the time is right.
You are absolutely correct.

I don't expect the unprincipled, limp-wristed liberals on this forum to have a clue what you mean, though. Yellow-bellied ideals are the basis of their ideology.
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:52 PM
 
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You are absolutely correct.

I don't expect the unprincipled, limp-wristed liberals on this forum to have a clue what you mean, though.
Since all of their arguments can be defeated with a simple Google search, fewer and fewer are pressing their intellectual dishonesty.

My insight tells me that by this time a year from now, there will be very, very few lefties remaining on the politics forum.
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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He has no leadership ability. He's weak, apathetic, and listless.
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:13 AM
 
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This thread needs to be resurrected. The abject truth it spells out with utmost clarity is something that liberals and other Barack Worshipers should be forced to contend with.

So, liberals, how about that "red line" your fearless leader likes to throw around as if he has the actual gonads to back it up? What do you have to say about that 'line' now that he's forced to reconcile his own words??

Speak up you cowards!!
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:17 AM
 
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Obama is obviously not a leader but he can use all the excuses he wants to keep us out of more involvement for all I care.
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:24 AM
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Location: Florida
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Compromise shows a healthy respect for others and a healthy degree of humility as well. Indeed, it is a false dilemma to suggest that either you stick to your principles or you “abandon” them and don’t have any. It is misleading to suggest that compromise shows a lack of principle—because compromise is itself a principle.
- David Lapakko
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:39 AM
 
Location: texas
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Can anyone show me where Obama "drew any line in the sand"? By what statment, do you all contend that was done. Just by saying he... "drew a line in the sand"... means absolutly nothing. Totally meaningless.

Show the words used by the president in which said...Syria, if you do "X", I will do "Y". Show the line drawn.
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