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View Poll Results: What restrictions on voting do you favor?
Voter ID laws 68 77.27%
Civic literacy 19 21.59%
Literacy test 20 22.73%
IQ test 10 11.36%
Other 24 27.27%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 88. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 08-25-2013, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Oooooh, kinda like this health care law I hear they're currently trying to implement?!
Off topic.
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:23 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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It amazes me that people think it is right to make someone pass a test to drive and automobile, but the idea of making them pass a test to be able to vote, where there is far more at stake is seen as being wrong.
The truth is not everyone has the knowledge or intelligence to make decisions that are going to be setting law and choosing leaders.
The country was established to only allow people of education, who owned property and had some skin in the game to vote. That system gave us some of the best systems, laws, and government this country ever had.
Today we have a government controlled by corporate interests, who have bankrupted our country to make fortunes for men with no loyalty to the country while simultaneously instituting a system of bread and circuses to purchase the indifference of the underclasses whose concern is only to get something which they do not have to work to get.
I would prefer a system where a test, which demonstrated an ability to understand logic and the workings of government along with a minimum net worth was required to be able to vote.
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:27 PM
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Location: Florida
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Why should the test only have those things that you want on them? I want the test to include questions establishing whether the person is sufficiently compassionate to others, generous, considerate of those less fortunate, open-hearted toward those who hold to different beliefs and values rather than just their own, etc. I think the vast majority of the test should be focused on establishing by objective evidence the qualities that I believe make a person a good person, establishing the ability to make decisions that affect others in a conscientious manner instead of grounded in selfishness, self-interest, egoism, or greed. So if you're willing to let me define that portion of the test, I'll be happy to let you define the other portion of the test.

Deal?
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:51 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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I'm still trying to understand how GW Bush was elected for a second term.
Simple: 9/11.
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Off topic.
Not when I use your own "logic" to point out the hypocrisy in your statement.

"Waivers are B-A-D, bad... Errrr... except when they're not"
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Old 08-25-2013, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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I think we should exclude all idiots that attempt to use failed wit to defame a President's name.
Sorry, I'm not a sheeple and I don't have to subscribe to the theory that Obama is the bestest president ever!!!
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Old 08-25-2013, 02:19 PM
 
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What common sense regulation on voting do you favor?

Feel free to list some of your views, and opinions
Basically none. Voting is one of the most fundamental rights of a representative government. Allowing the government to limit voting is a way for government to control the outcomes of elections.

Free societies hold free elections. It is sad that America in some ways is moving in the opposite direction.
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Old 08-25-2013, 02:21 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Big difference. Driving is a privilege, voting is a right.
Actually, it is the other way around, but it takes a extensive legal background to understand that.
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Old 08-25-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Why should dishonorably discharged military be unable to vote? Should people fired from a job be disqualified?

No restrictions except US citizen and 18. And I'm on the fence about convicted felons. That may leave a lot of republicans unable to vote.
And at least an equal number of Democrats, especially those from Chicago!
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Old 08-25-2013, 02:37 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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It amazes me that people think it is right to make someone pass a test to drive and automobile, but the idea of making them pass a test to be able to vote, where there is far more at stake is seen as being wrong.
The truth is not everyone has the knowledge or intelligence to make decisions that are going to be setting law and choosing leaders.
The country was established to only allow people of education, who owned property and had some skin in the game to vote. That system gave us some of the best systems, laws, and government this country ever had.
Today we have a government controlled by corporate interests, who have bankrupted our country to make fortunes for men with no loyalty to the country while simultaneously instituting a system of bread and circuses to purchase the indifference of the underclasses whose concern is only to get something which they do not have to work to get.
I would prefer a system where a test, which demonstrated an ability to understand logic and the workings of government along with a minimum net worth was required to be able to vote.
The truth is, this country was founded based upon the proposition and stated policy that, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..." That's pretty clear to me. What part of it don't you understand or agree with?

There is no law of that land that says the unintelligent, uneducated, illiterate, poor, etc. should be denied the vote, nor should there be. None of those are against the law.
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