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Old 08-26-2013, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Why do many 40 year old black men dress and listen to the same music as 8 year old black boys?

Why do many young black male teenagers only focus on a rap career or making it to the NBA?

Why don't they have better guidance? Single parent/no parent aka grandma households??

I'll tell you why. Black people are so afraid to create their own identity that they don't stray away from what blacks readily accept via the media.

It's like black people don't have their own identity unless its anchored in racism and media BS like the rap culture. It taints too many promising young minds...

 
Old 08-26-2013, 10:00 PM
 
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So the manufacturers are not to blame?...I mean this can go on and on with fruitless question begging. But to address your point...the media is just mirroring what the demand is.

No, they can actually control the demand by promoting the garbage and supressing the good stuff (postive rap). The majority of people that do not listen to rap do not realize that there is also religious rap, socially consciouos rap and party rap better known as hip hop.

And the recording industry are just the distributors now. We live in a time and age where no more artist and development is needed. Majors can just sit back and watch these grassroots movements build on their own merit through the thousands of globally reaching social network streams.

Maybe this will give you a little insight to the record industry control over black record companies


[SIZE=4]Major Record Companies Manipulated Control of Black Music Pt I ...[/SIZE]
That was in the 90's early 2k....there's some guy named Jay-Z from that era....where is he now? Perhaps you have heard of him
 
Old 08-26-2013, 10:03 PM
 
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Actually, you can attribute that to an intact CULTURE
Truth.
 
Old 08-26-2013, 10:33 PM
 
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True but they did make a conscious effort to disfranchise them 150 year after slavery either
Huh? Slavery wasn't outlawed by the African slave traders or in the African countries 150 years ago. Slavery was just outlawed in the Anglo countries. If you go to Burma, The Congo, or Mauritania you can still find lots of slaves. Technically, slavery is illegal and Mauritania criminalized slavery a couple of years ago, but the UN isn't allowed to inspect the conditions.
 
Old 08-26-2013, 10:50 PM
 
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The slave argument holds no water

Blacks sold blacks
So what?
 
Old 08-26-2013, 10:59 PM
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Today it was on the news that Madonna and Jay-z is promoting a new dangerous drug called Mollie.. Madonna, who I believe is the worst role model ever is dragging young people down..

Whites also glorify drinking, drugs and promiscuity .. the tv is full of it.. our culture is going down the tubes as the liberals work to make drugs legal and lack of responsibility a choice through federal programs .
Jay Z has never promoted Mollies, Jay Z just released a song called " Tom Ford"

and the Chorus lyrics are " I dont pop mollies i rock Tom Ford"

Who ever fed you that line of crap about Jay Z literally heard the word mollie in the song and did not care to put it in the context of the song, they just assumed he was promoting its use.

They were deliberately misleading you, and you did not even try to investigate their ridiculous claim.
 
Old 08-26-2013, 11:06 PM
 
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Why do many 40 year old black men dress and listen to the same music as 8 year old black boys?
Because they want to know what their sons are listening to. I don't know any 40 year olds who dress like their children or other young boys, unless both are wearing polos and jeans or something.


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Why do many young black male teenagers only focus on a rap career or making it to the NBA?
Not too many jobs out there......while I don't think black kids or any other kids should focus on rap or sports, what should they focus on? Corporate America discriminates, as do the trades. Manufacturing is gone, and even government jobs aren't as plentiful as they used to be. I encourage education and entrepreneurship, but I guess so many people are alienated and feel hopeless that these messages don't get in there.

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Why don't they have better guidance? Single parent/no parent aka grandma households??
Black men are being destroyed by the justice system, the lack of access to work, and violence and drugs and stress. It is multifactored.

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I'll tell you why. Black people are so afraid to create their own identity that they don't stray away from what blacks readily accept via the media.
When we create our own identities, we're called subversive, separatist and racist.

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It's like black people don't have their own identity unless its anchored in racism and media BS like the rap culture. It taints too many promising young minds...
Uhhh...................yeah........
 
Old 08-26-2013, 11:10 PM
 
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I agree. The morals in this country have gone out the window. Children copy the trash they see in movies and hear in songs. This ignorance is colorblind. Liberals are okay with this. In fact, those that think we are in a state of moral decay as a nation are labeled as fundamentalist Christian RWNJ's by the hard left.
What a nice false statement.
BTW, most divorces are from you religious folks; the same people who keep pornographers in business.
Stats support it, unlike your statement.
 
Old 08-26-2013, 11:20 PM
 
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We have this talk everyday on this forum regarding blacks and rap.

Yet we never have this talk about whites and there people like Miley Cyrus parading around naked during the VMAs.

Or Madonna with a full on gold grill in her mouth, and the destructive and suggestive lyrics that soak into the heads of there white teen audiences.

You don't think whites like her have anything to do with the continual erosion of white families?

In 1965 there were 3.1 percent out of wedlock births for whites, that has jumped up to 30 percent.

So for all this focus on blacks and out of wedlock births, we have to shine the spotlight equally on this epidemic in white communities as well.
I haven't read through the thread yet, but I do agree with you that there is an erosion of white families. I do think it's talked about, frequently. Why do you think people object to television content, sexualization of small children through the media, body image, the stupidity of The Kardashians or The Real Housewives? I can remember the uproar about Madonna in the '80s.

But just like the black community, culture is a reflection of the problem, not the problem itself (though it doesn't help). The breakdown of the family started with the sexual revolution, women's liberation movement, no fault divorce laws, relaxation of moral standards, drug culture - basically everything gained in the sixties.

The thing was, those things were brought about because things weren't so peachy before then either. Most women stayed with abusive or cheating husbands because it was too hard to support a family as a nurse, teacher, or secretary. The women's lib movement opened the field a little more for what women could do in the workforce. No fault divorce meant it was much easier to get a divorce. The sexual revolution lead to the idea of living together without marriage, which lead to the idea that having a baby was no reason to get married, which lead to a huge surge in children being born out of wedlock. Children in single-parent homes have higher rates of poverty, criminal behavior, incarceration, etc.

I'm no sociologist, so I could be wrong. This is just my thoughts on what happened in the last 50 years.

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Old 08-27-2013, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Why isn't white pop culture talked about as a reason behind the erosion of the white family?
Because the white families that matter have enough culture, class, and education about them, and their kids have actual role models, that they're not so susceptible to this stuff and understand it's entertainment?

Oh, and another issue between stuff like Miley, Beyonce, and other "pop" music and rap/hip hop is that sexuality is not seen as bad or damaging, while violence is?
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