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Old 08-27-2013, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Why should it be taxed more than coffee makers or coffee? That is bad for your health too right? Some doctors say that.

How about alcohol? Sure there are some extra taxes but if they really wanted to raise some revenue and if you really want to find the foundation of most health issues and society problems you can start with alcohol. Who not tax the crap out of that?

Because it will cost them votes, that's why. Such hypocrisy.
You tax the easiest things to tax to increase revenue or make up revenue losses. That is the way it has always been, something any politician understands and agrees with.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:14 AM
 
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You are right, I meant to say you think guns should be free because it is a right? That is the correct question, sorry for the error.

No problem....

ANd no, they should not be free....but because you don't like them should not mean you tax the heck out of them "just because."
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:15 AM
 
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You tax the easiest things to tax to increase revenue or make up revenue losses. That is the way it has always been, something any politician understands and agrees with.
Or you pick the things you hate or disagree with...and then tax the heck out of them...

Classic....
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:21 AM
 
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They are building a 1billion dollar stadium in Minneapolis for the Vikings. When Governor Goofy found out that his pulltabs and other idiotic sources of revenue were not going to cover the stadium he decided to push through another cigarette tax to cover the rest.

So people who cannot afford the cheapest seat in the stadium are going to have to help pay for the damn thing. People who may work 2 or 3 jobs and the only vice they allow themselves are cigarettes.

And the rich people (who do not smoke probably) are going to be sitting in luxury boxes paid in part by these poor folks simply because they smoke.

All these politicians should be thrown out.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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No taxation without representation - if you don't like the tax then vote in some new representatives.

No one is restricting guns or alcohol.

The power to tax is the power to destroy--US Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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They are building a 1billion dollar stadium in Minneapolis for the Vikings. When Governor Goofy found out that his pulltabs and other idiotic sources of revenue were not going to cover the stadium he decided to push through another cigarette tax to cover the rest.

So people who cannot afford the cheapest seat in the stadium are going to have to help pay for the damn thing. People who may work 2 or 3 jobs and the only vice they allow themselves are cigarettes.

And the rich people (who do not smoke probably) are going to be sitting in luxury boxes paid in part by these poor folks simply because they smoke.

All these politicians should be thrown out.

I agree; these stadium deals are nauseating. That's one reason I couldn't support Tim Pawlenty in the 2012 primaries--he had been a pro-stadium guy.

Just be glad you're not in my state of WA. We have built 3 tax funded stadiums since 1995, plus we are still paying off the Kingdome, which was imploded about 10 years ago. KeyArena, built in 1995 for the Sonics, is now empty since the Sonics moved to OKC. And now they want to build a new combo NBA/NHL stadium in Seattle. Luckily, so far they have not been able to snag a team, so the effort is kind of stalled.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:49 AM
 
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As a person who supports reasonable controls on gun purchases, this is a bad idea. It will never leave committee and only serves to inflame the opposition. There are more productive ways to address this issue.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:19 AM
 
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The power to tax is the power to destroy--US Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall.
Well said. This is nothing more than left-wing social engineering. Don't outright ban something you don't like, just raise the taxes on it to make it more expensive. Cigarettes, alcohol, tanning, guns, soft drinks, etc -- it's a sleazy way to manipulate the general public's behavior.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:21 AM
 
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Well said. This is nothing more than left-wing social engineering. Don't outright ban something you don't like, just raise the taxes on it to make it more expensive. Cigarettes, alcohol, tanning, guns, soft drinks, etc -- it's a sleazy way to manipulate the general public's behavior.
The NRA should file lawsuits if they truly are a friend to the gun owner and a supporter of the 2nd amendment. The government is simply trying to take guns out of the hands of the poor with these laws.

Pretty damn un-democratic if you ask me.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:30 AM
 
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Since they can't openly ban guns they have to do it in a sneaky way. I don't think most Americans are going to stand for this.

Really the liberals and Democrats have become such a radical party over the last several years. They are the new tyranny of our time.
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