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Old 09-02-2013, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Originally Posted by ahigherway View Post
Let's pray the time is right to start learning to dialogue. I think a lot of people (and I mean, A LOT) are tired of war, of conflict, of destruction, of interventions, of tears, of deaths and bodybags...

Let's hope Obama gets some good counsel by congress to dialogue rather than rattle sabers.


Peace.
brian
That's just it. Winding down wars is NOT what the military industrial complex wants.
They had a good run but we need a new country to eat right now in prolonged action.

The beast is hungry and needs to be fed.

 
Old 09-02-2013, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Obama is useless. He should have stayed a professor at U of Chicago where his bumbling would have caused little damage.
Did you ever read what he was teaching? It sure wasn't from the textbooks that the university provided. He was considered an outsider and his teachings weren't so much as teaching, but more like race propaganda.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 11:12 AM
 
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He'll be playing the role of McNamara defending the war before Congress soon.

Karma's a bit**.
Won't that be a hoot?
 
Old 09-02-2013, 11:13 AM
 
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I really wish Kerry would stop harping on the fact that chemicals were used. WE GOT IT!!! WE KNOW!!!! What we don't know is WHO used them!!!
Or where they all came from and who might have encouraged their use.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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The navy is redeploying ships from their current mission.
There are 5 destroyers there now and several more on the way.
That will be about 200+ missiles and 300+ marines all stationed off Syria.

Exclusive: USS Nimitz carrier group rerouted for possible help with Syria | Reuters

We're going to help the terrorists take down Assad.
Good to know how many "boots on the water" we have there.

I guess there's no chance that Syria could lob a missile or two at one of those carriers is there? The Syrians certainly have been given enough time to move their equipment and get themselves in place.

He wasn't lying when he said no boots on the ground.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 11:20 AM
 
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The US has been demanding he step down for two years. Assad has offered a peace plan that includes a new gov't and a new Constitution, but with the election coming up, the Syrian people should decide if he steps down. He is willing to, but that should be a decision of the Syrian people, not foreign govt, which would set a dangerous precedent.

Read more here: Facing diplomatic isolation, Syria’s Assad says he’s willing to step aside | McClatchy

The elections were held, and the majority of Syrians support Assad.
Who are we to force a leader of an independent country out, if the people of that country elected him and support him? Our own gov't stinks, and we do not rule the globe. We are supposed to respect sovereignty and be seeking peace.
OK...thanks for answering....although you said he offered to step down SEVERAL times...I won't nitpick about one word.

Now I wonder why he just couldn't announce he was stepping down long ago and say he's going to instruct the government to hold Democratic elections instead of killing his own people demonstrating for just that?

Any election would have to be monitored since I doubt they wouldn't be honest and rigged like Iranian elections.

If he were serious about stepping down, that could have been done and saved a lot of bloodshed and problems for everyone. Somehow I don't think he was a that serious.

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Old 09-02-2013, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Good to know how many "boots on the water" we have there.

I guess there's no chance that Syria could lob a missile or two at one of those carriers is there? The Syrians certainly have been given enough time to move their equipment and get themselves in place.

He wasn't lying when he said no boots on the ground.
Right..the CIA inside the country since 2011, Libyan guns and chemicals showing up in Syria and one dead Ambassador.

What he's SAID means nothing.

Clapper said the USG was not collecting data on Americans.
He wasn't lying either was he ?

They never LIE until they get caught and when they get caught they dance and get a free pass.

Invading Syria is not going to be like invading Libya.
Invading Syria includes Russia and Iran.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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OK...thanks for answering....although you said he offered to step down SEVERAL times...I won't nitpick about one word.

Now I wonder why he just couldn't announce he was stepping down long ago and say he's going to instruct the government to hold Democratic elections instead of killing his own people demonstrating for just that?

Any election would have to be monitored since I doubt they wouldn't be honest and rigged like Iranian elections.

If he were serious about stepping down, that could have been done and saved a lot of bloodshed and problems for everyone. Somehow I don't think he was a that serious.

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Syria votes next year. Why all of a sudden we need to invade poses a bigger question about what's really going on here.

Why is Syria all of a sudden the focus point ?
I think worse went on in Egypt during their Arab Spring and we did nothing overt about it.

I think the chemical weapon attack was a planned action.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 11:34 AM
 
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Watch the BBC report. They aren't sure if it was napalm or thermite but both are banned and both result in horrific burn injuries with most of the people effected likely to die. The saddest thing? The target was a school full of children.

BBC News - Syria crisis: Incendiary bomb victims 'like the walking dead'
I watched the video 3 times because I noticed something the first time and needed to see it again, and again. At 3.06 it seems as if the victims were cued for the camera. Sorry, but that's the way I see it. And if this has been going on for a while, why are we hearing about it for the first time now? BBC is as about as ethical as every other mass media news outlet.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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If we don't have the will to intervine to stop the Asad from using chemical weapons then you know Iran is going to see a green light to develop nukes. They'll correctly guess the US just doesn't have the balls to stop them just like we didn't have the balls to stop Asad from committing war crimes. Remember that, wing nuts, when you're whining about a nuclear Iran.
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