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Originally Posted by texdav
Its not weapons of mass destruction has defined he wants to use ;to correct that.No one thinks Putin is anything but a KGB thug. The problem I see is the case Obama has made for attacking. First he sets the redline two years go. Then apparently never planned what to do if its crossed. Then it is crossed several times and ignored. Then this time. Kerry and Hagel come out beating the drum saying this has to be responded to by military action. Switch to Obama; well I don't know; haven't made up my mind. Two weeks almost later he now says there is no question it has to be responded to by military strike. Then he goes to congress; instead of acting has he did in Libya on war powers. He never went to congress in the 60 days under war powers act and it certainly wasn't like this with WMDs in Libya but same humanitarian reasons. When I heard Kerry first time I thought tomorrow morning the president will appear and inform us he has started the strike under his powers has president like Libya. now its a mess.With the same ole no matter what ;its none of our business crowd.The well I have to make a political decision of now this effect my political chances in elections and the well I think its needed but I don't see this shot across the bow doing changing anything for the risk. What a mess the administration has made of things:IMO.If I had woken up to hear we had started a attack; I pretty much would said well he is president and given the authority to make the decision.
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Sometimes I feel as though I'm talking to myself ... even among those who have a more rational grasp of right and wrong. Nevertheless, I will again point out the TEN TON ELEPHANT in the middle of the living room that most everyone insists on ignoring, as if he doesn't matter. That happens to be the fact that Syria was one of the identified targets for this wholesale US initiative for a takedown in the middle east 12 years ago. This fact was revealed to the public by Gen. Wesley Clark, who was informed of this list of 7 countries to be taken out in 2001. Among those 7 countries to be taken out was Libya (check-done), and Syria (in-progress), and next on the list is Iran.
So, to any truly rational and logically minded person, this fact destroys these little fairytale narratives presented to the drooling public about why we "need" to take action against these countries, or this idiotic hogwash about this being Obama's decision to make. Obama decides NOTHING ... it would surprise me if he actually chose his own suits to wear each day .. those are probably laid out for him to put on. So when you hear this nonsense about Obama still not having made up his mind about what to do ... you can read into that one thing ... Obama's handlers haven't yet made a solid enough case, or gathered enough support to attack Syria yet, but they are working on it, and as soon as they think they can get away with it .. Obama will magically have an epiphany .... that's all that means. As a side argument, I find it outrageously offensive as an American patriot that the public would even accept the idea that one man wields that kind of power to unilaterally decide to take the country to war anyway.
In any event, what I cannot explain is this gaping blind spot that allows most people to keep falling for the same lies, over and over again ... it's really an outrageous display of stupidity. Could it be any more blatant and obvious than it is now? I don't think it could get any more obvious. How many times can one people be hoodwinked by the same freaking lie? Oh, we have to invade Iraq because they have WMDs .. and Saddam is a bad guy who gasses his own people
Oh yes, then we move on to Libya, and we have to stop that bad guy from hurting his own people .... and now we have Assad, and he's a bad guy who gasses his own people ... same lie, told over and over again, and yet, those among us whose memories are not wiped clean every 48 hours must suffer through endless discussion over this mindless drivel being endlessly spewed out by these criminal psychopaths in Washington DC and Tel Aviv? How God damned stupid can people be? The whole freaking world sees what is going on ... except, it seems, the American zombie public.
Syria is just the next target in the list formed long ago, by the war mongering lunatics that seem hell bent on turning the middle east into a gigantic conflagration, as each successive government is toppled, throwing each into a state of civil war, as factions of cold blooded terrorists consume each other, along with the innocent peoples of each of those countries caught in the crossfire.
The American public is grossly negligent in their duty as citizens to demand that their government behave in a civilized and lawful manner, by failing to insist that this endless exportation of death and destruction cease .... yesterday.
I am truly ashamed of what America has become ... and a large portion of the blame must go to the fat, lazy, stupid, and negligent public for this ... not just the criminal psychopaths in charge ... because they are doing exactly what one should expect from psychopathic, blood thirsty, genocidal maniacs .... blaming them exclusively for this is like blaming a dog for barking. The people are equally responsible for the government they have, and for what that government does in their name.
It's time for decent people to wake up, and hold themselves accountable for the mess they've allowed to form around them, and to start CLEANING HOUSE of these war mongers running amuck. And even if you cannot find a shot glass amount of compassion for the innocents being murdered overseas ... how about the young men and women of our armed forces being used as cannon fodder for this crime against humanity? Can't we at least demand an end to this never ending state of war on their behalf? My God, what have we become? A nation of nitwits, or a society of soulless demons who find war a modern form of reality television entertainment?
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