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Old 08-31-2013, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by Bludy-L View Post
Cordial cooperation doesn't equate to having anyone on the ground there. We still have no embassy or ambassador.

Nor have they ever turned over those responsible for attacking our embassy..

It doesn't say that the central government has no control of their own country and that insurgent groups rule large portions.

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You can parse the information any way you choose. Your take is totally predictable based on your agenda here.

Now where was that link you were going to provide me stating that relation between the USA and Libya are at an all time low and non existent?

 
Old 08-31-2013, 03:13 PM
 
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Money aside, what do we gain by interfering?

Do we have any real culpability in this? If not, one American life is too much.

We aren't talking about the British or Canadians here, most of these people hate us and our involvement drives that hatred.





"If just one American life is saved....."


Where have I heard that before?
 
Old 08-31-2013, 03:13 PM
 
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No ;I think Obama who consistently voted no on such things has a problem now doing them. Even his moral reasoning does work because Saddam gassed the Kurds and he didn't see the moral problem then to act. In Libya there was no such case or did he ever consult congress. he is doing now because he lacks support from his error of speaking on the redline force him into a corner. He also failed to build support by talking to congress leaders before sending Kerry and Biden out to beat the attack drums.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 03:14 PM
 
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I feel in safe hands with Obana in charge, after all he captured Osama while playing cards with Reggie Love!



What Obama does in the privacy of his own home is not our business.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 03:14 PM
 
Location: College Hill
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Originally Posted by mohawkx View Post
And right wing conservatives are still lobbing unsubstantiated S#!t bombs at the president by using falsehoods and innuendo.
It's all they have, it's all they know: lies, and stupid, grade school taunts. But fret not, their white, fossilized party is dying of old age and soon, the Ladies Hydrangea Club of New Jersey will have more members than the GOP. America will be a better place for it.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Originally Posted by Bludy-L View Post
Cordial cooperation doesn't equate to having anyone on the ground there. We still have no embassy or ambassador.

Nor have they ever turned over those responsible for attacking our embassy..

It doesn't say that the central government has no control of their own country and that insurgent groups rule large portions.

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Those investigating were assassinated and those investigating the assassination were assassinated.
The investigations have stopped.

Three extremist groups were named and one of them was the group the State Dept hired to guard them.
The contract expired 8/29 and wasn't reneewed.
There had been arguments among the groups and Stevens because he was pushing for the Brotherhood to have a part in the new government.

The 3 main guys named are walking freely over there and one was even interviewed by the press.

There's your justice.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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What really bothers me about all of this is the fact that John Kerry gets up and blurts out about how inhumane it was to kill innocent women and children with chemicals. So, what has America done in all the wars? Why do you think America is hated so much? Talk about double standards....?

I'm sorry, but we have no business over there, as whenever we go to war, we run like scared rabbits and leave each and every country we've been in, in disarry.
I can see that you fervently hope the United States fails on all levels and it is your fervent wish to bring this nation to it's knees. What a shame.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires and La Plata, ARG
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What really bothers me about all of this is the fact that John Kerry gets up and blurts out about how inhumane it was to kill innocent women and children with chemicals. So, what has America done in all the wars? Why do you think America is hated so much? Talk about double standards....?

I'm sorry, but we have no business over there, as whenever we go to war, we run like scared rabbits and leave each and every country we've been in, in disarry.
Or in Mexico with the narcos that killed 300.000 civilians in the last decade to provide drugs to the US market?

It doen't matter even Syria for them, not if there is chemical weapon, neither the deaths that they will cause with a war, neither this, nor that one, nor different thing. The global USA politics and his bellic industry need to bombard cyclically and inexorably. They will do it once again, whatever happens, whatever they can't prove anything to explain their interventions.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 03:18 PM
 
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Not just yet, give him a chance - this is his first opportunity to provide some leadership on an issue since 2008, let's see how it goes - perhaps he'll shock us and actually do something other than conduct a speech and take a tour/campaign bus through Minnesota.



He's been having us wait 5 years to do so.



Don't think it will.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 03:19 PM
 
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America is all of a sudden "The Beacon of Hope". to a leftie!

That's rich!



No sh*t!
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