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It really is all about the Saudi's taking the helm in the ME. They orchestrated the Coup in Egypt and they are funding the overthrow of Syria to take out the supply line to Hezbollah in Lebanon and limiting Iranian/Shiite influence.
I say it's a good thing that the Arabs are doing the heavy lifting instead of us all the time.
What if we had spent the 3-4 trillion we spent on the War in Iraq instead spent it on energy conservation
and renewable energy?
Yea the thought makes you want to cry, Imagine a world with low demand for oil, that money would have gone a LONG way.
The truth is its not as simple as developing renewables. Western economies heavily rely on oil and war for that matter, there needs to be a massive fundamental shift in capitalism itself.
The only positive thing I see personally is a increasing percentage of people wiseing up to whats going on.
Yea the thought makes you want to cry, Imagine a world with low demand for oil, that money would have gone a LONG way.
The truth is its not as simple as developing renewables. Western economies heavily rely on oil and war for that matter, there needs to be a massive fundamental shift in capitalism itself.
The only positive thing I see personally is a increasing percentage of people wiseing up to whats going on.
Welcome to the Libertarian truth!
We've been manipulated and taken as morons by our government since Korea. We have sent countless men and women to their deaths in the name of corporate welfare. When the wealth of a nation is exchanged for the wealth of the few, this is what we get. Crony capitalists making backroom deals and pulling on America's patriotic heart strings. Now anyone mentioning patriotism is considered a possible terrorist.
Can you fathom the insidiousness and deceit these politicians possess, to churn and foment the racism and party prejudice, all in an effort to further their own petty gains?
It's sickening at best, and tyranny for sure.
By now, any person who claims to be either a Republican, or a Democrat should know they are neither. They are supporters of the same monster.
I don't trust our governments ability to figure it out so the best course of action would be to just stand down and not get involved. We need to stop meddling in those knuckledraggers affairs over there and let them kill each other off if that's what they want to do. We may want regime change and to improve their lives but if they don't want us to then its pointless to even try.
I don't trust our governments ability to figure it out so the best course of action would be to just stand down and not get involved. We need to stop meddling in those knuckledraggers affairs over there and let them kill each other off if that's what they want to do. We may want regime change and to improve their lives but if they don't want us to then its pointless to even try.
Let alone dying for the mirage that is their willingness to become a democratic nation. All we do is exchange one tyrant for another, make us tyrants. This isn't what the founding fathers had in mind when they strived to create the most perfect republic.
Well Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" "A republic if you can keep it"
We are losing our constitutional republic, in exchange for a corporate military empire... an oligarchy!
The rebels are the top suspects as they easily have the biggest motives.
Assad has a motive NOT to do it, why the hell would he want to give the West a reason for striking.
The Pentagon seems to believe the American public are utterly stupid and don't have any ability to think for themselves, lets hope this time they are proven wrong.
When chemicals were used several months ago, it was determined that it was the rebels who used them. Obama insisted it was the Assad regime. I guess the consensus of opinion that it was the rebels stopped Obama from taking action. At this point, all Obama knows is that chemical weapons were used. He does not know or have proof it was the Assad regime. This is just a "gut reaction" by Obama.
The use of chemicals and the deaths are tragic. But Obama should make damn sure 100%, other than a strong belief, that it was the Assad regime before taking any military action. He was wrong the first time, and he can be wrong again. If the rebels are behind the latest attack, clearly they are manipulating Obama.
Assad is a heartless creature, but not a stupid creature. He knew that there would be an international uproar if he used chemicals and he had nothing to gain. Even with the backing of Russia and China he wouldn't take the risk. The rebels also knew that there would be an international uproar/backlash and they would have everything to gain knowing that Obama would take the bait, and it appears that he did.
And that could also be the agenda for the terrorist rebels who aren't making any progress in toppling Assad. Hence, the use of chemical weapons and Obama's belief that only the Assad regime is capable of doing it.
Regardless of who did it, the US should listen to Russia - this is going to lead to broader conflict in the region, even without Russia's involvement.
When chemicals were used several months ago, it was determined that it was the rebels who used them. Obama insisted it was the Assad regime. I guess the consensus of opinion that it was the rebels stopped Obama from taking action. At this point, all Obama knows is that chemical weapons were used. He does not know or have proof it was the Assad regime. This is just a "gut reaction" by Obama.
The use of chemicals and the deaths are tragic. But Obama should make damn sure 100%, other than a strong belief, that it was the Assad regime before taking any military action. He was wrong the first time, and he can be wrong again. If the rebels are behind the latest attack, clearly they are manipulating Obama.
Assad is a heartless creature, but not a stupid creature. He knew that there would be an international uproar if he used chemicals and he had nothing to gain. Even with the backing of Russia and China he wouldn't take the risk. The rebels also knew that there would be an international uproar/backlash and they would have everything to gain knowing that Obama would take the bait, and it appears that he did.
totally agree
obama was wrong the first time, and is probably wrong this time. I believe its was probably the rebels (alqeada)...but this admin wants another coup/overthrow of an established government
Shoebat makes the observation that Assad was wiping the map with the rebels. Why would he use chemical weapons? Especially prior to allowing UN observers in. It doesn't add up!
Syrian Rebels Used Sarin Nerve Gas, Not Assad's Regime: U.N. Official
Testimony from victims strongly suggests it was the rebels, not the Syrian government, that used Sarin nerve gas during a recent incident in the revolution-wracked nation, a senior U.N. diplomat said Monday.
Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were "strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof," that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.
This is beginning to feel a lot like Iraq 3.0
WHY is Obama, McCain and the rest of "was for it, before I was against it" idiots so bent on getting us involved? Is this a political sleight of hand, to steer attention away from our own woes?
Before ANYTHING is done, they need to be 100% sure.
Shoebat makes the observation that Assad was wiping the map with the rebels. Why would he use chemical weapons? Especially prior to allowing UN observers in. It doesn't add up!
Syrian Rebels Used Sarin Nerve Gas, Not Assad's Regime: U.N. Official
Testimony from victims strongly suggests it was the rebels, not the Syrian government, that used Sarin nerve gas during a recent incident in the revolution-wracked nation, a senior U.N. diplomat said Monday.
Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were "strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof," that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.
This is beginning to feel a lot like Iraq 3.0
WHY is Obama, McCain and the rest of "was for it, before I was against it" idiots so bent on getting us involved? Is this a political sleight of hand, to steer attention away from our own woes?
I posted yesterday afternoon in anther thread both sides are using cw
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