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If this is what you use to justify gay marriage than you also are inversely justifying the other perversions too. Hell you can justify anything really with that same logic, if I steal from you then it's okay because it too must be "natural".
Another manifestation of your homophobia.
And where did weltschmerz make the argument that because something is "natural" it is therefore "okay" (or good or moral or correct)? Hint - he didn't. His posts were refutations of T-310, who is the one making insinuating that natural = okay.
I've always found that it's social conservatives who try and make the link between what is natural and what is moral - and I've never understood that. Well, I do understand what they're doing. When they say "natural" they usually mean "what my god tells me is natural."
If you're not a homophobe, then why do you advocate for the unequal treatment of gay people under the civil, secular laws of the US and its Several States?
You are probably just fine with "unequal treatment" (your definition, not mine) of pedophiles, polygamists, etc?
I'm talking about the legal rights of civil marriage, as constructed under civil marriage statutes, that are conferred when a couple contracts a civil marriage.
What else would I be talking about?
A gay man has the same right to marry a woman that a straight man has.
And where did weltschmerz make the argument that because something is "natural" it is therefore "okay" (or good or moral or correct)? Hint - he didn't. His posts were refutations of T-310, who is the one making insinuating that natural = okay.
I've always found that it's social conservatives who try and make the link between what is natural and what is moral - and I've never understood that. Well, I do understand what they're doing. When they say "natural" they usually mean "what my god tells me is natural."
That is the logic you guys are using. As you can see your logic sucks, like most liberal logic does. Either you believe that "love is love" and that " everyone should marry whoever they want" or you don't. After all using your broken liberal logic again, you would be discriminating against those people who do practice such lifestyles.
It's social liberals who are to blame for our culture sucking and having no class. The Miley Cyrus incident is a prime example of how liberalism (really cultural Marxism) has become a parasite to our nation. It's all a result of your values, and you guys have to handle the consequences of it.
You are probably just fine with "unequal treatment" (your definition, not mine) of pedophiles, polygamists, etc?
I absolutely am just fine with unequal treatment of pedophiles. Doing so serves a legitimate government interest in that it prevents a harm to the people. As to polygamists, I have nothing whatsoever against any group of people forming a private polygamist union. The legal framework of civil marriage - shared, joint rights of couples - doesn't make any sense and is not applicable in the context of polygamist groups.
If you can make an argument as to how allowing gay couples to contract civil marriage harms the people, I'll gladly consider it.
And where did weltschmerz make the argument that because something is "natural" it is therefore "okay" (or good or moral or correct)? Hint - he didn't. His posts were refutations of T-310, who is the one making insinuating that natural = okay.
I've always found that it's social conservatives who try and make the link between what is natural and what is moral - and I've never understood that. Well, I do understand what they're doing. When they say "natural" they usually mean "what my god tells me is natural."
A gay man has the same right to marry a woman that a straight man has.
And a black man had exactly the same right to marry within his own race as a white man.
That argument didn't work before, won't work now.
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