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Old 08-30-2013, 09:31 AM
 
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Originally Posted by weltschmerz View Post
You think a nine year old should be able to sign a lease or a mortgage? I don't.
If the courts say they can, then your opinion is meaningless.. btw, I bought my first home at age 15, so yes it can be done...
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How about a nine year old dancing in a strip club? A smart 9 year old?
That would be child pornography and not even close to what I suggested..
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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If the courts say they can, then your opinion is meaningless.. btw, I bought my first home at age 15, so yes it can be done...

That would be child pornography and not even close to what I suggested..
So you think a 9 year old dancing in a strip club is child pornography, but marriage and sex with an adult is peachy keen if they're smart enough?
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:35 AM
 
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Heterosexual marriage is between 2 non-related, consenting adults.
Homosexual marriage is between 2 non-related, consenting adults.

Incest is not between 2 non-related, consenting adults.
Polygamy is not between 2 non-related, consenting adults.
Marriage to children is not between 2 non-related, consenting adults.
Marriage to animals is not between 2 non-related, consenting adults.

Though I don't have a problem with polygamy as long as those involved are consenting adults.
You used logic? And applied it consistently? Don't you know that threads like that are, by law, not allowed to contain logic? You MUST make emotional statements to participate in such nonsense.

I am always amazed that there are still people out there who create such threads with the obvious belief that their ideas, "insights," and conclusions are something new that will simply boggle the mind of others.
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:36 AM
 
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So you think a 9 year old dancing in a strip club is child pornography, but marriage and sex with an adult is peachy keen if they're smart enough?
Where did I say it was peachy keen? I said the COURTS decide if they can LIVE ALONE

Maybe you should just stop saying stupid crap.
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Where did I say it was peachy keen? I said the COURTS decide if they can LIVE ALONE

Maybe you should just stop saying stupid crap.
How is that any different than the COURTS deciding this CHILD is smart enough to live alone, support themselves and sign contracts? Gotta pay the rent somehow. Why not lap dancing?
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Old 08-30-2013, 09:45 AM
 
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How is that any different than the COURTS deciding this CHILD is smart enough to live alone, support themselves and sign contracts? Gotta pay the rent somehow. Why not lap dancing?
So you think that a court will emancipate a child who has no means of supporting themself other than lap dancing?

Since there are probably thousands of children a year emancipated, maybe you can provide us with an example to validate you arent just talking stupid..

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Old 08-30-2013, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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So you think that a court will emancipate a child who has no means of supporting themself other than lap dancing?

Since there are probably thousands of children a year emancipated, maybe you can provide us with an example to validate you arent just talking stupid..
Oh for heaven's sake! Emancipated children are usually placed in foster care.
Do you seriously think a 9 year old should be able to get married and sign mortgages? It's your prerogative. I disagree, but you're entitled to your opinion.

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Old 08-30-2013, 09:57 AM
 
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It needs to be called marriage, because all of the laws regarding marriage, say marriage. The cost to change every law, and every form, that mention marital status, spouse, marriage, etc would be ridiculous not to mention time consuming. Add to that the thousands of examples of legal precedents that refer to marriage, not civil union.

Not to mention separate but equal has been shown to not work in this instance already.
You make a point about legal precedents referring to the word marriage that I hadn't really thought of. You can't really retrospectively change all those references.


Blacks Law Dictionary (2009, 9th edition):

marriage, n. (Bc) 1. The legal union of a couple as spouses. - The essentials of a valid marriage are (1) parties legally capable of contracting to marry, (2) mutual consent or agreement, and (3) an actual contracting in the form prescribed by law. Marriage has important consequences in many areas of the law, such as torts, criminal law, evidence, debtor-creditor relations, property, and contracts.

-Black’s Law Dictionary Ninth Edition 2009 Pg 1059
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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The same sex marriage debate is pretty much pointless at the national level since the high court ruling. Just yesterday the IRS ruled that tax filing will be based on state of celebration and not state of residency. Eventually the SS death benefit will be the same, so the only debate left is at the states level for state benefits.
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:18 AM
 
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Marriage is the legal and social union between 2 people... it doesn't specify age, gender, etc... Now because it is a "legal" union, the government can choose to recognize it or not and it is up to them to provide criteria... You can call yourself "married" but the government also has a choice to recognize it or not... and if the government recognizes it, the "social" aspect can choose to recognize it or not... if the government chooses to recognize "gay marriage", I really don't care since it is the government's decision to recognize it... now YOU may choose to not recognize it but that's YOUR decision and the people really don't need to care what YOUR decision is...
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