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Old 08-30-2013, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Originally Posted by Workin_Hard View Post
Cloning?



Adopted parents - male and female, or one or the other - are absolutely real families.



I'm afraid you lost me on this one. Is this a trick question or some new arrangement not previously discussed?



It attempts to normalize the acceptability of "mom-mom" or "dad-dad" parentages where the "parents" are in a same sex relationship, and thus promote that such relationships are in every way (or any way) equivalent to a male-female based family, which may contrast with the morals (religious or non-religious) being taught at home. One parent? Sure. I came from such, Grandparents as substitute parents? Absolutely. Mine raised me.

I don't see any need to include anything about same-sex relationships in any lesson taught in schools. The only possible goal is to socialize children in a way of thinking that many, if not most, parents find objectionable. This is a subject for (real) parents at home to teach, not school teachers acting at the direction of the government.

I'm so thankful for private schools. A good one is expensive, but truly worth every penny invested.
The schools need to find a way to deal with same gender relationships and families that don't disadvantage the children of those families. It should not be the business of government to disparage a child's family. If you can't or won't treat all children and their families as deserving equal respect then perhaps you should isolate yourself in private schools.

 
Old 08-30-2013, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I certainly hope we aren't worried about unwanted pregnancies in 5 year olds.
I know girls are developing at younger ages but 5 ?
Of course not. But the sooner kids learn about sex, the better. Kids should grow up knowing sex is a normal, healthy part of adult life. If you wait too long to teach them about sex, they end up learning about it on the playground and in the streets instead. And that's the worst thing that can happen.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 06:01 AM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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The schools need to find a way to deal with same gender relationships and families that don't disadvantage the children of those families. It should not be the business of government to disparage a child's family. If you can't or won't treat all children and their families as deserving equal respect then perhaps you should isolate yourself in private schools.
Then don't address the issue in any way. Not mentioning it would avoid any disparagement or approval. You want the opposite, the endorsing of such arrangements. I'd choose the path of "If you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all" - the neutral ground.

I never believed in the "everyone gets a prize" mentality.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 06:35 AM
 
Location: US
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I agree with you. Teaching about protection from molestation is not necessarily sex education though. Sex education for 5 year olds is out of line. Hopefully the parents are being provided with information as to what is going to be taught.

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The vast majority of child sexual abuse is by someone in their own family.

Hopefully more children will speak up about being sexually molested by someone in their own family, because they will know it's 'bad touch' and that they need to tell someone.

Have a problem with that?
 
Old 08-31-2013, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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again ... this is why I have my child in a private school.
Of course all the libs are going to rally around this as good policy because after all it came from the lips of Obama the great.
I didn't even know or understand sex when I was in kindergarten. Children that age are not emotionally mature yet to understand sex and its consequences.


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Obama: Sex Ed for Kindergartners
Sex Ed for Kindergarteners ‘Right Thing to Do,’ Says Obama - ABC News

(CNSNews.com) - The Chicago Public Schools this year are mandating that the district’s kindergarten classes include sex education, fulfilling a proposal President Barack Obama supported in 2003 when he served in the Illinois state senate and later defended when he ran for president in the 2008 election cycle.

Do we really need government bureaucrats deciding all of this, just because they have confiscated out money in taxes? this is why parents need to get involved at the local and state school board level. but I would not put it past the Obama admin to try and make this a compulsory law across the nation.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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propaganda you mean?


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Why does the right wing have such a problem with education?

Besides, this is OLD.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 06:48 AM
 
Location: texas
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again ... this is why I have my child in a private school.
Of course all the libs are going to rally around this as good policy because after all it came from the lips of Obama the great.
I didn't even know or understand sex when I was in kindergarten. Children that age are not emotionally mature yet to understand sex and its consequences.
What policy? if you had read the article, you surely would have remembered where the president stated that...this decision should be left to communities and districts to develop and implement...Do you mean that policy?
 
Old 08-31-2013, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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Why not let the decision be left to the parents?


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What policy? if you had read the article, you surely would have remembered where the president stated that...this decision should be left to communities and districts to develop and implement...Do you mean that policy?
 
Old 08-31-2013, 06:56 AM
 
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again ... this is why I have my child in a private school.
Of course all the libs are going to rally around this as good policy because after all it came from the lips of Obama the great.
I didn't even know or understand sex when I was in kindergarten. Children that age are not emotionally mature yet to understand sex and its consequences.
It's just basic biology. What's wrong with basic biology? Kids can indeed understand basic biology.

If you have specific values regarding when to have or to not have sex then teach that. There's nothing stopping you.

But there's no reason basic biology shouldn't be taught in school. To leave out such a major part of a child's education makes it conspicuous in it's absence.

The more knowledge, the less gravitating to the taboo in later years. It should be common knowledge and matter of fact.

Teaching basic biology does not imply a value judgment.
 
Old 08-31-2013, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Why not let the decision be left to the parents?
It is, parents can opt out if they so choose.
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