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Old 09-03-2013, 05:16 AM
 
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I do think that African Americans could of done better... For instance, you had great African American leaders like MLK... What you had however was Caucasians doing everything for you, from starting the Civil War, ending segregration, etc., African Americans wanted it, but Caucasians were doing it... They are in essence fighting your battles and maybe thats why you haven't advance very far in socioeconomic issues... Until the day when African Americans stop having democrats thinking for them is the day when African Americans take their future into their hands... Democrats aren't going to help, they are happy with where you are... It suits them politically and socially... You are too comfortable with where you are instead of where you should be...


so well put.

liberals are destroying the country.
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Old 09-03-2013, 08:56 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Many don't and certainly many black parents don't take responsibility for the lives of their kids and in raising them properly which is why many black communities are in the predicaments that they're in now.
So why was there such a major change in the way blacks were working hard and their prosperity rising faster than any othe group in the 1950s and 1960s (when racism was still heavy and Jim Crow laws existed in most places), and from the 1970s onward when their increasing prosperity came to an almost complete halt (with less racism and Jim Crow)?

What changed in the 1960s that caused the abrupt levelling off of their prosperity afterward?
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Old 09-03-2013, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Taos NM
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I agree. I do not think that the variable is humanity, but rather, circumstance. I believe that given the same circumstance, all races would likely end up in the same situation. If a person does not fundamentally believe this, in regards to socioeconomic, then they are prime suspects in regards racism.
I would have to disagree with you. Look at the Asians on the west coast who built many of the railroads out there. I would find it very hard to believe that they were any less discriminated against than the blacks were.
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Old 09-03-2013, 11:51 AM
 
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Said another way, just where should African Americans be today, given that for over 300 years, they were oppressed in this nation? Do you think they have underperformed in their rise from oppression? I ask because there seem to be this implicit assumption that others have "been there and done that", in regards to what blacks have experienced, yet, they have moved to equality by now. If one does not imply that, then usually what is implied is that somehow where blacks are as a people, should be much better.....but based upon what criteria? Who has established the benchmark for comparison and is the situation the same in degree and or kind?
They were doing much better in the 60s when they were mostly all Republican before LBJ gave them the welfare state saying, "The N words would vote decades for Democrats because of this."

Notice since the great society laws came, marriage in families is in great decline, lead by black families.
Not good.

IMO, get over the welfare state and become more self reliant and goal oriented.
Also learn to eat better and use less drugs in that society so they don't develop as many violent criminals.
We need to bring back a sense of shame, respect for others and self discipline and the country as a whole (not just for blacks) will be better off. We are a people in decline.
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:42 PM
 
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Nope. That is not the post to which I initially responded. See below:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/31237452-post94.html
you STILL failed. had you read the article, you would have seen that there were 4.3 million on welfare, and that 38.8% of those were white and 39.8% were black. that still means that there are MORE blacks on welfare than whites. i did show the math later to clarify, but it shouldnt have been necessary.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:24 AM
 
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Do you think blacks are inferior, or that they put emphasis on an inferior culture?
In my opinion, some blacks do put an emphasis on inferior culture and denigrate other blacks who try to make something of themselves or accuse them of "acting too white"
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:28 AM
 
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Few White Americans did anything for African-Americans. They were too busy trying to limit access to greater opportunity for non-whites, especially African-Americans, so that their future generations would have more even though they may have done far less. LOL@ whites doing everything for African-Americans.
think he is referring mostly to post civil rights/great society era.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:35 AM
 
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Few White Americans did anything for African-Americans. They were too busy trying to limit access to greater opportunity for non-whites, especially African-Americans, so that their future generations would have more even though they may have done far less. LOL@ whites doing everything for African-Americans.
you are gravely misinformed. please read a book.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:36 AM
 
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So why was there such a major change in the way blacks were working hard and their prosperity rising faster than any othe group in the 1950s and 1960s (when racism was still heavy and Jim Crow laws existed in most places), and from the 1970s onward when their increasing prosperity came to an almost complete halt (with less racism and Jim Crow)?

What changed in the 1960s that caused the abrupt levelling off of their prosperity afterward?
Lyndon Johnsons' Great society programs!
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