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Old 09-01-2013, 01:57 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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IF Obama were "marxist," he would be about equality. I don't think there are many Americans gung-ho about equality (at least not on a financial level).


Peace.
brian
Equality of opportunity is what America has always been about (and MLK and the Republicans fought to ensure that it included all people, regardless of skin color).

As for Obama being a Marxist revolutionary, read this:

Archived-Articles: Meeting Young Obama
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Old 09-01-2013, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Italy
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Equality of opportunity is what America has always been about (and MLK and the Republicans fought to ensure that it included all people, regardless of skin color).

As for Obama being a Marxist revolutionary, read this:

Archived-Articles: Meeting Young Obama
"Equality of opportunity" is about as intelligent as putting a hare in the same race as a tortoise, for the same prize.

--After all, they both had the same chance, right?



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Old 09-01-2013, 03:23 PM
 
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We celebrated the 50th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.’s iconic “I Have a Dream” speech but so little attention is paid to exactly what he said and even less action to achieve his dream. The phrase which captures the essence of the entire speech is "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. "

So why is there no effort to eliminate judgement by the color of one's skin? Why are Obama, Jackson and Sharpton not making speeches about eliminating discrimination by color of skin? In fact, most of our leaders (and especially Obama) are doing just the opposite. Skin color today is more important than ever. Almost everything our government does and almost every law it passes has skin color as a critical part. You can't get a government contract without determining skin color. The government census has skin color. College admission is about skin color. Small business loans are about skin color. Etc.

So when are we going to stop focusing on skin color and achieve MLK's dream? It would start with eliminating all questions about skin color on every government form and eliminating all laws that have provisions regarding skin color.

Wake up America! We are not moving forward.
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MLK fought for equality and rights for everyone, not for treatment based on skin color.
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Exactly. Equality of opportunity, not "ecconomic equality," which is a redistributionist idea, and from which the idea of an "income gap" stems (which is corrected by redistribution of wealth).

It's interesting that affirmative action laws do exactly what MLK and the Republicans fought against. Blacks are more enslaved (and impoverished) today because of Democrat policies that keep them dependent (and the Democrats in power).
BRAVO to all three of you. reps all around for these posts. king had a dream, and when i first heard his speech, it touched me enough that i refused to judge people on skin color. this is something i have constantly advocated over the decades since. i dont care about skin color, i care about character.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:30 PM
 
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The phrase which captures the essence of the entire speech is "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. "
Unfortunately the DemoKKKrats will not allow this. To them, everything is about race.

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Wake up America! We are not moving forward.
Agreed. We are moving BACKWARDS at frightening speed. (hope and change!)
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:07 PM
 
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50 years later and you folks haven`t gotten over the loss of white privilege yet. A pathetic lot indeed.
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:39 PM
 
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Obama is President today precisely because he is black ("America's first black President!") If he had been judged by the "content of his character," Marxist revolutionary, who vowed to "fundamentally transform the United States of America," he would not have been elected.

Those of us who did the research into his associations, and his character, were called "racist bigots."

Everything in Obama's past was about a Marxist revolution, and many, if not most, of his appointees ("czars") have been of the same ilk.

Get a clue.
What you said was my point.

Obama would NOT be President if he HAD been judged by the content of his character.
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:09 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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"Equality of opportunity" is about as intelligent as putting a hare in the same race as a tortoise, for the same prize.

--After all, they both had the same chance, right?



Peace.
brian
"Four score and twenty years ago, our Fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal." — Abraham Lincoln, The Gettysburg Address

"We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal... " — The Declaration of Independence

So, are you comparing blacks to the tortoise?

The American idea the idea of self government, based on the above propositions, and "with liberty and justice for all", is the best idea in the history of man. There are no other newer ideas. Socialism, Marxism, "Progressivism" (Socialism) are all old, tried, and failed ideas.

You can stay in Italy. You belong there. Benito Mussolini is probably one of your heros.

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Old 09-01-2013, 05:23 PM
 
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What you said was my point.

Obama would NOT be President if he HAD been judged by the content of his character.
You're right. I had a brain fart. I misread your post for some reason. Now I see we agree.
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:58 PM
 
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"Equality of opportunity" is about as intelligent as putting a hare in the same race as a tortoise, for the same prize.

--After all, they both had the same chance, right?



Peace.
brian
the tortoise wins more often than you might think. the race doesnt always go to the fastest, but the one that crosses the finish line first. by the way equal opportunity is not the same as equal outcome. equal opportunity means you are free to take advantage of every opportunity that presents itself to you, or not. equal outcome means that the government is squashing equal opportunity and freedom.
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Old 09-01-2013, 06:24 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I haven't really thought a lot about MLK, I mean, you know in HS you learned about him and his work, and I thought it was a good thing, but never really got it until I was much older.

The guys was standing up for the basics.... I mean the basics that we all should rightfully have.

He went against the establishment, it's really easy to just give up and go with the flow, not rock the boat. I think as a society it is beat into us to be submissive.........

He had major courage, courage to stand up against oppression.... that must have been hard..... have some long sometimes scary thoughts in the middle of the night thinking about the obstacles in front of him.

We need more guys like him.... cause to me, it's not a black equality rights issue, it's about a man doing what is right, and facing massive opposition..... that is the definition of courage in my opinion.
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