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Old 09-01-2013, 10:18 PM
 
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If you create a private club (with dues, membership fees, etc. that only serves members of that club) you can. Private clubs are exempt from the federal law--that's why some country clubs are still all white, or don't allow Jewish people etc. Some states MAY outlaw discrimination with private clubs (I haven't checked to see if they do) but it's legal under federal law. If you meet the criteria for a business that is a public accommodation under federal law, or under the state where you operate, then you can't discriminate who you sell to according to the statutes.

What I find nearly incredible is that 50 years later, we're debating the civil rights act of 1964. I don't know whether I should laugh or hit my head repeatedly on the table.
So why is it discrimination if a Public place does it but not when a Private place does it?

We're not debating the Civil Rights Act. We're debating a portion of it. That itself, is discriminatory as shown.

 
Old 09-01-2013, 10:19 PM
 
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That makes sense.

You're really adding to my stance that small business owners are kind of clueless on these matters.
Thats your opinion.
 
Old 09-01-2013, 10:20 PM
 
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That makes sense.

You're really adding to my stance that small business owners are kind of clueless on these matters.
I think we have lots of "pretend" business owners on this board, or at least I'm pretty sure they are based on how little they know or understand about lots of issues that small business HAS to get to make it.
 
Old 09-01-2013, 10:22 PM
 
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So why is it discrimination if a Public place does it but not when a Private place does it?
Affects interstate commerce.
 
Old 09-01-2013, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Not at all.
I just don't believe in big govt and govt dictating everything we do.

Personal responsibility.
So you are back tracking and now and saying you do want laws.
 
Old 09-01-2013, 10:27 PM
 
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Affects interstate commerce.
Huh?
Its still the same principle. Execpt one is discrimination and one isn't...
For no other reason than one is "private".
One does the very thing we are debating and its ok because they private but if a public company does it, its discrimination.
 
Old 09-01-2013, 10:27 PM
 
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If I understand the story, this guy will be swamped with buis. Just look at the thread
 
Old 09-01-2013, 10:28 PM
 
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So you are back tracking and now and saying you do want laws.
When did I ever say I didn't??
I believe in mandatory paid vacation and sick time....
 
Old 09-01-2013, 10:29 PM
 
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If I understand this story, this guy will be swamped with buis. Just look at the thread.
Explain?

Oh, on second thought, never mind.
 
Old 09-01-2013, 10:32 PM
 
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The first pic cannot be done because I cannot see the whole cake.

The second pic of the cake is teeming with gender contrast. The flowers drape the cake and need the stability of the cake in order to fix (wed) themselves for a contribution. They gather at the top , the head or male gender figure in the design suggesting the male direction and leading role. The Flowers then are able to also flow out from the mans' thought in this idea, the idea itself in the event. A man is not known to drape or follow the women, the flowers easily show the femininity, even the comfortable way the flowers flow from the top and are situated in such a natural falling way helps remind how the women cannot help but fall for the guy with a noggin in mind.
It's like looking at art, a painting in a museum. The second cake is nothing but gender contrast. The Calla Lily, with it's yellow spadix (penis), is clearly male. The rose is definitely female. This is not a gay wedding cake.
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