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View Poll Results: What should be done about illegal drugs, and the resulting drug gangs?
Legalize drugs as described 48 57.83%
Keep the current system 18 21.69%
Other (please specify) 17 20.48%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-03-2013, 11:34 AM
 
Location: The West
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Just like prescription drugs already are.
Hard drugs should be legalized and advertised in the front window panel like meat?
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Old 09-03-2013, 11:39 AM
 
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As I said earlier, all advertising/marketing would be banned. I would mandate that pharmacies carry it, sell it to any adult (ID always checked) who wanted it. But there would be no signs and it wouldn't be on display.

And, actually, I'd have no problem if Canadians were allowed access to guns. But I'm not Canadian, so that's not my problem.

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So we should be able to have cocaine available in stores on display for innocent people and kids to see or buy should we?

Let's legalize it because it's made availble anyways. What a poor excuse. If Canadians were to be given access to guns next week like the Americans do, I'm sure you would think that's a bad idea.
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Old 09-03-2013, 11:48 AM
 
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As I said earlier, all advertising/marketing would be banned. I would mandate that pharmacies carry it, sell it to any adult (ID always checked) who wanted it. But there would be no signs and it wouldn't be on display.

And, actually, I'd have no problem if Canadians were allowed access to guns. But I'm not Canadian, so that's not my problem.
Having it legalized and readily available to anyone over the age of 18 will encourage more people to try it. It will become a use and then an addiction. If you can't see that, well...
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Taos NM
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Hard drugs should be legalized and advertised in the front window panel like meat?
I didn't say advertised. I believe all drugs should be legal, but it should be illegal to advertise any of them, including caffeine, alcohol, and tobacco.
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:09 PM
 
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Why, when anyone can text their dealer and get it delivered in 20 minutes (and hooking up with a new dealer is not a problem either.) If the prohibition was working, we wouldn't even be discussing this. As others have said, it's easier for kids to get pot than booze.

What I would not allow is having it turn into another beer industry, with commercials in every NFL time out. I think that is the cause of a lot of the alcohol problems (the unremitting promotion.) I'd let drugs be out there, and someone can get them if want them (which is exactly as it is now.) But there'd be no promotion.

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Having it legalized and readily available to anyone over the age of 18 will encourage more people to try it. It will become a use and then an addiction. If you can't see that, well...
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Taos NM
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Having it legalized and readily available to anyone over the age of 18 will encourage more people to try it. It will become a use and then an addiction. If you can't see that, well...
Mmmm, not if kids are adequately educated on what the drugs actually do. It really has to do with the addict and not the drug (except for painkillers or nicotene). Its a choice that every person has to make: which, if any, drugs will I take. It's really the same choice as choosing what to eat.

The most dangerous drugs known are already legal, they're called deleriants. You can pick them up at a garden center or over the counter pharmacy if you want. Nobody does though, because they're dangerous and people don't willingly ingest poison.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/datura/datura_info6.shtml

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Old 09-03-2013, 01:02 PM
 
Location: The West
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Why, when anyone can text their dealer and get it delivered in 20 minutes (and hooking up with a new dealer is not a problem either.) If the prohibition was working, we wouldn't even be discussing this. As others have said, it's easier for kids to get pot than booze.

What I would not allow is having it turn into another beer industry, with commercials in every NFL time out. I think that is the cause of a lot of the alcohol problems (the unremitting promotion.) I'd let drugs be out there, and someone can get them if want them (which is exactly as it is now.) But there'd be no promotion.
Most people don't know drug dealers or would be too scared to approach one. Drug dealers aren't that readily available anyways, contrary to what you may think. Some curious kid or mentally messed up person would have easy access to a drug that provides absolutely no benefit if it were legalized. Prohibition doesn't work in the sense that it doesn't keep drugs off the streets, but legalization will just increase use of the drug. Absolutely asinine idea.

I know from experience kinda. While I was suffering from depression last year, I would have easily offed myself if I had easy access to a gun or would've abused drugs if it were down the street from me to access easily.
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:04 PM
 
Location: The West
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Mmmm, not if kids are adequately educated on what the drugs actually do. It really has to do with the addict and not the drug (except for painkillers or nicotene). Its a choice that every person has to make: which, if any, drugs will I take. It's really the same choice as choosing what to eat.
Kids are educated on safe sex but still end up contracting STD's and pushing out kids. It's a personal choice yes, but shouldn't be an option made legal. There's way too much harm involved. If Marijuana is legalized, people will flock to stores and buy it to smoke. Imagine something more harmful such as coke or meth.
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:08 PM
 
Location: USA
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I always felt that drug addiction should be considered a medical problem ... not criminal activity.

Alcohol is a drug yet alcoholic beverages are legal.

Is there a vodka or a gin or a whisky cartel engaged in wholesale smuggling operations? Are there liquor corners in inner cities and turf wars by liquor store gangs?
I agree with you.

I was watching a documentary on the issue and historically that's how addiction was treated in the early years in our society. Addicts were seen as people who needed help.
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:10 PM
 
Location: USA
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Having it legalized and readily available to anyone over the age of 18 will encourage more people to try it. It will become a use and then an addiction. If you can't see that, well...
Are you kidding me??


If they legalize drugs your gonna go out and smoke crack??



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