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How many? Many here have provided factual information about the insignificant number of Canadians who travel to the U.S. for the sole purpose of medical care. Students and snowbirds don't count because of
part time residences.
A heck of a lot more U.S. people seek offshore medical treatment than the U.S. receives in medical tourism. Destinations are not limited to Canada. The number of U.S. people who buy life saving prescription medications in Canada is serious business. That they have to travel out of the U.S. to buy the same medications at substantially less cost says a lot about the overall healthcare system in the U.S.
not true. most of those going to their HOME COUNTRIES like India,china or Russia seek dental treatment there, becasueit is cheaper, but not actually medcal treatment, unlike the medical tourists, who come to the US
not true. most of those going to their HOME COUNTRIES like India,china or Russia seek dental treatment there, becasueit is cheaper, but not actually medcal treatment, unlike the medical tourists, who come to the US
I am going to have to ask for a cite for that.
As far as I know, most people coming to the US for medical treatment from the developed world come for cosmetic surgery.
I've never heard about any stats on the people leaving the US for treatment, because America does not collect stats on that. You'd have to collect stats from every destination coutry.
I have access to just ONE hospital stats (can have to more, but I don't feel like it) - and even ONE small community hospital on the South East Florida provides tens of procedures every year to Canadians.
if any hospital just in South East Florida coast provides 50-100 operative procedures every year - it is hundreds of thousands just for Florida. Opeartive procedures, which are the most lucrative, not dental implants
As far as I know, most people coming to the US for medical treatment from the developed world come for cosmetic surgery.
I've never heard about any stats on the people leaving the US for treatment, because America does not collect stats on that. You'd have to collect stats from every destination coutry.
Most people from Canada and UK are coming for orthopedic procedures, urologic procedures, cancer diagnostics and cancer treatments.
UK is leading in some cardiology and urology procedures, whereas Canada - in cancer diagnostics and orthopedics.
There are no exact stats on either side, just approximations on a national level, but there are stats in every hospital providing treatments.
I have access to just ONE hospital stats (can have to more, but I don't feel like it) - and even ONE small community hospital on the South East Florida provides tens of procedures every year to Canadians.
if any hospital just in South East Florida coast provides 50-100 operative procedures every year - it is hundreds of thousands just for Florida. Opeartive procedures, which are the most lucrative, not dental implants
so, yeah, keep your B S coming
Do you have any idea how many Canadian snowbirds stay in Florida after retirement? They get admitied to hospitals where they live, and they got health troubles because thay are old.
If you're just going to throw out imaginary claims based on nothing, please sit down, the adults are talking.
I am not suggesting that the US should move to the British system ... or the Canadian one ... or the French one, etc. etc.
But our system is seriously broken. We are paying twice as much as any other developed country for health care which isn't any better than they get. Health care is eating up 18% of GDP and rising. It is a huge drag on our economy.
I don't support the ACA because that doesn't fix the problem and may even make it worse. Our system of health care provision needs drastic surgery. We need to get the cost out of the system while maintaining quality. If others can do it then so can we. I don't accept that we are too 'special' or too 'stupid' to do it.
You are at least being objective about the problem.
UHC equipped countries are going through constant adjusments to address "easily" recognized deficiencies in delivery and development. We require a system that continues to improve to address ever changing health demographics of aging populations and new forms of illnesses as they appear. We recognize the problems inherant within our respective systems.
Spending any time castigating one or the other system in a fruitless and wasted exchange of finger pointing does nothing to address the problems in either system. Defensive posturing merely serves to entrench ignored weaknesses or failures.
What I would like to see come out of all of this is a system with the ability of providing superlative healthcare to all 350 million of your citizens in either a single payer or other similar model that spreads the costs over your entire population in a fair manner.
You cannot move the hands of the clock back a hundred years to when no taxes were collected for anything. You cannot now regress to the state where it was every man for himself in the demonstrably inferior "only the strong and self sufficient survive" model. Those days are gone forever.
Recognizing that the "purely for profit" provision of any type of essential service, just does not work, is the first step in acknowledging changes need to be of the "bold and unfamiliar" type.
Yours should be one of the "spectacular and unparalleled" examples for the rest of the world to follow and not the current "avoid at all costs" observed.
I am not suggesting that the US should move to the British system ... or the Canadian one ... or the French one, etc. etc.
But our system is seriously broken. We are paying twice as much as any other developed country for health care which isn't any better than they get. Health care is eating up 18% of GDP and rising. It is a huge drag on our economy.
I don't support the ACA because that doesn't fix the problem and may even make it worse. Our system of health care provision needs drastic surgery. We need to get the cost out of the system while maintaining quality. If others can do it then so can we. I don't accept that we are too 'special' or too 'stupid' to do it.
Here is the thing about health care. It costs money. You can either pay for it directly, through an insurance company, or through markedly increased income/sales/VAT taxes. You will pay for it, one way or the other. The places that liberals point to as shining examples all have ridiculously higher tax burdens than we do. So don't be confused by the notion of "free" health care. People are paying for it. The higher your income, the more you get to pay for another person's medical care. We already have that in the form of Medicare, but now the liberal crowd has determined we need to just go whole hog and move to European style socialized medicine. It is simply fiscally unsustainable. It doesn't work. The NHS is broke.
Your assertions that the care we receive is no better than other countries is just plain wrong. I have lived, not visited, but lived in 4 European countries, and have seen and in some cases had to use their health care systems. They are not close to the level care we have in the US.
I have access to just ONE hospital stats (can have to more, but I don't feel like it) - and even ONE small community hospital on the South East Florida provides tens of procedures every year to Canadians.
if any hospital just in South East Florida coast provides 50-100 operative procedures every year - it is hundreds of thousands just for Florida. Opeartive procedures, which are the most lucrative, not dental implants
so, yeah, keep your B S coming
Once again you don't fail to perform as expected.
The Center for Disease Control is consigned to a blog status along with a plethora of non-blog reportage by credible writers working for some respected news agencies.
Strange how you consign everything to the B.S. status then procede to spread a bunch of the stuff in your usual manner.
You must surely realize that for every time you characterize all of these links I'm posting, written by YOUR press as just B.S., you lose another fraction of your credibility with your own citizens reading these.
Here is the thing about health care. It costs money. You can either pay for it directly, through an insurance company, or through markedly increased income/sales/VAT taxes. You will pay for it, one way or the other. The places that liberals point to as shining examples all have ridiculously higher tax burdens than we do. So don't be confused by the notion of "free" health care. People are paying for it. The higher your income, the more you get to pay for another person's medical care. We already have that in the form of Medicare, but now the liberal crowd has determined we need to just go whole hog and move to European style socialized medicine. It is simply fiscally unsustainable. It doesn't work. The NHS is broke.
Your assertions that the care we receive is no better than other countries is just plain wrong. I have lived, not visited, but lived in 4 European countries, and have seen and in some cases had to use their health care systems. They are not close to the level care we have in the US.
How does your Veteran's Assistance medical care system work?
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