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Old 09-06-2013, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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You are very naive if you think an insurance policy will simply say they provide "cancer treatment". They will have all sorts of exceptions and exclusions.
Or will trump up a reason to not pay. 'What? You got a hives from eating a tomato when you were six? Sorry, we're not paying for your cancer treatment. Good luck."
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:23 PM
 
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Actually Canadians pay income tax at a lower rate than most people in the US think...

Do Canadians Really Pay More Taxes Than Americans?
Ummmm....compare gas prices!

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Old 09-06-2013, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Because Conservatives are told by Rush and a few others that socialized medicine is bad. And of course they believe it without even experiencing it.
Or researching it either... Some live in an echo chamber...
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:25 PM
 
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Or researching it either... Some live in an echo chamber...
As if Leftists don't? LMAO!

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Old 09-06-2013, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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As if Leftists don't? LMAO!

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Not really a leftists so I don't know. But Progressives don't. We push both parties...
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:36 PM
 
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Don't people read anymore?

How do you miss the stories about British hospitals not changing sheets, people pulling their own teeth, people being left in hallways, waiting forever (and many times dying waiting) for treatment.

That unless you live in a metro area in Canada, you can't get a primary physician. That rural towns have lotteries for doctors. That their Supreme Court said access to a waiting list is not access to health care. That things like MRIs are only in large cities.

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Old 09-06-2013, 09:41 PM
 
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But how do you sit at the kitchen table that evening and deal with the stress of you, your wife or child being denied that coverage until it gets straightened out.

My other posted link to the Cancer Society showed how it happens regularly and is not "unusual". with a whole procedural layout of how you would go about appealing etc.

I get pizzed just thinking this has happened to untold millions of folks over the years. It does not compute to me.
It happens on the NHS system and medicare system as well though. Denying cancer treatment for an undisclosed pimple doesn't make sense, but most of the reported cancer treatment denials have a detail like hitting the lifetime cap, switching insurance companies, lapse in coverage, or something similar, and then you have companies that would give bonuses for cancelling people.

Cancer is one of the few illnesses that I could support publicly paying for or issuing a negative tax credit for because there are so many environmental causes, but I'm not going to demonize an entire industry when the bottom line issue is one of cost and not access.
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Don't people read anymore?

How do you miss the stories about British hospitals not changing sheets, people pulling their own teeth, people being left in hallways, waiting forever (and many times dying waiting) for treatment.

That unless you live in a metro area in Canada, you can't get a primary physician. That rural towns have lotteries for doctors. That their Supreme Court said access to a waiting list is not access to health care. That things like MRIs are only in large cities.

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Don't YOU? All these things have been addressed in this thread.
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:45 PM
 
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418 posts?

Sorry if I missed a couple.

Those claims are true and reported from the most credible sources.

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Old 09-06-2013, 09:55 PM
 
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Don't people read anymore?

How do you miss the stories about British hospitals not changing sheets, people pulling their own teeth, people being left in hallways, waiting forever (and many times dying waiting) for treatment.

That unless you live in a metro area in Canada, you can't get a primary physician. That rural towns have lotteries for doctors. That their Supreme Court said access to a waiting list is not access to health care. That things like MRIs are only in large cities.

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We have posted many links showing current stats of all things from numbers of patients per physicians, survival rates for cancer treatments, wait times for MRI's to the costs of medical care in each country. Factual stuff.

Oh and we can read also:

Study: Hospitals

In Hospital Deaths from Medical Errors at 195,000 per Year USA

12 Outrageous Health Care Horror Stories | Shrinkage Is Good

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/11/op...gman.html?_r=0

Health Insurance Horror Stories

195,000 deaths a year through medical mishaps; uuufduh!
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