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Old 09-03-2013, 06:41 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Is this suggesting that the requirement that emergency rooms treat all comers, regardless of ability to pay, is a violation of hospital operators' rights?
What right have you to compel someone to work for your benefit?

We abolished that when we abolished slavery.
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Why do you feel that a medical doctor owes you his labor for no payment?
Why are liberals unable to answer these questions?

Their entire agenda is based on them.
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Old 09-03-2013, 06:50 PM
 
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What do you mean by "right". You just can't use the word without elaborating your meaning. Law, constitutional amendment? What?
Precisely regarding this living wage lunacy. Entry level jobs were never meant to be living wage jobs.
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:04 PM
 
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I never assigned feelings to either group.

Right now I sell my labor to obtain things I'm not able to pursue under threat of imprisonment and/or death. Everyone does...even business owners. The business itself is their labor.

Then we all receive compensation, most notably in the form of currency, to purchase products we naturally have a right to (food, water, medicine, materials, sanitation).

It's a rather complex and ass backwards way to sustain life but we do it anyway.

I mean...how unnatural can a system be (capitalism) where we've essentially subsidized water? It's 70% of the surface of the earth. It falls from the sky. It's two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom. Despite this, a drink of water is a hard thing to come by.
What you pay for is treated water, the convenience of having it piped right to your home with enough pressure to come out the faucet, or the convenience of having it portable as well as potable by being bottled.
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:05 PM
 
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Precisely regarding this living wage lunacy. Entry level jobs were never meant to be living wage jobs.
Some jobs don't even pay in money. White House under pressure to pay its interns
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:09 PM
 
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Then we all receive compensation, most notably in the form of currency, to purchase products we naturally have a right to (food, water, medicine, materials, sanitation).
So your're a communist. I see.
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:13 PM
 
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Then we all receive compensation, most notably in the form of currency, to purchase products we naturally have a right to (food, water, medicine, materials, sanitation).

It's a rather complex and ass backwards way to sustain life but we do it anyway.

I mean...how unnatural can a system be (capitalism) where we've essentially subsidized water? It's 70% of the surface of the earth. It falls from the sky. It's two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom. Despite this, a drink of water is a hard thing to come by.
Where the hell do you live?

As far as "natural rights", you do not have a natural right to clean water, food, medicine or sanitation unless you contribute in some way to it.

BTW....the earth is only comprised of .03% H2O and only a very, very small percentage of that is drinkable. Someone pumps it, filters it and delivers it. Make it yourself if it's so easy.
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:35 PM
 
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Where the hell do you live?

As far as "natural rights", you do not have a natural right to clean water, food, medicine or sanitation unless you contribute in some way to it.

BTW....the earth is only comprised of .03% H2O and only a very, very small percentage of that is drinkable. Someone pumps it, filters it and delivers it. Make it yourself if it's so easy.
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Old 09-03-2013, 08:01 PM
 
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Since living wages are in the news again.

The fallacy of the fast food worker making a "living wage" doesn't pass muster when that fast food worker can no longer buy the fast food they work to serve.

The idea now put forth by the Administration (and probably by many others) is that everyone working is entitles to a living wage. I have yet to hear how they reconcile the consequences of all those who work making the so-called living wage. Do they also plan to implement price controls? I bet that is on the agenda because otherwise the expectation is that businesses absorb the additional costs? Since when?

Also, "earning" a living wage and "making" a living wage are two very different things. Once implies a value/reward system while the other implies a gift.
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Old 09-03-2013, 08:03 PM
 
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Sure ... as soon as employees gain access to the same tax incentives, low-interest loans, write-offs, and outright subsidies that so many companies now enjoy.

If corporations are people, then it follows that people are corporations and should be entitled to be treated accordingly -- right?
Are you saying corporations are not people, thus they shouldnt have to pay taxes? Everyone with 1/2 a brain knows that only people pay taxes..
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Old 09-03-2013, 08:05 PM
 
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Sadly, the earth being made up of 75% water is a very common misunderstanding. Roughly 72% of the earth's SURFACE is covered in water. Imagine covering 3/4 of a bowling ball with a sheet of paper. Sure, a good portion of the bowling ball would be covered in paper but the bowling ball itself would still be made up of mostly plastic, reactive resin, and urethane. The earth's crust (the continents and the oceans) are only between 3 and 46 miles deep. The next layer, the mantel is roughly 1,800 miles deep and made up of mostly silicate rocks, magnesium and iron. Finally, the inner core which is mostly iron and about 760 miles in diameter, is surrounded by nearly 1400 miles of a hot nickel-iron alloy liquid. If you could suck up all of the earth's water into a sphere, it would only be about 760 miles in diameter, the same size as the core, or roughly half the size of Pluto.
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