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Old 09-04-2013, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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Wow, the intellectual quality of the posts on this thread - on both sides of the discussion-really went downhill today.

 
Old 09-04-2013, 08:11 PM
 
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Should we force Jews to eat Pork?
 
Old 09-04-2013, 08:13 PM
 
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Very quite.
Republican "jeezus"??? You are aware people all over the world believe in Jesus right? And there are no "Republicans there. Do you people ever use your brain??

So you pointing out hypocrisy in the bible?
 
Old 09-05-2013, 01:04 AM
 
Location: The West
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If a bakery refused to sell you a cake because they disagreed with your black skin, I'd hope you'd avail yourself of the protections provided by law.
If they said that then yes its discrimination. If they simply said no, leave my shop its a different case
 
Old 09-05-2013, 01:13 AM
 
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Who cares? It's so strange that you guys believe this means the law does not apply to you.
My argument is, it's a stupid law. It's slavery.
 
Old 09-05-2013, 03:16 AM
bUU
 
Location: Florida
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Holder sure does hate Texas.
With respect, the problem there is that Texas "hates" (to use the your word) anything that isn't a reflection of the personal preferences of the majority of Texans. It's become a very deliberate, active assertion of negative regard toward any situation where those personal preferences don't prevail. In my experience, Texans consistently refuse to acknowledge their role as the fundamental part of these problems, compounding the problems.

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It is generally a very clear line, and that is when your "practicing of religion" interferes with or suppresses the rights of others. It is a pretty simple concept and I'm not sure why it is so hard for you to grasp.
This is a key point. The right to live in accordance with one's own beliefs and values rightfully is primary within one's own skin, rightfully has very high primacy within one's own family and one's own worship, rightfully progressively loses primacy the further from one's own skin the effect of the beliefs and values extends, and rightfully has practically no primacy when the impact of those beliefs and values would be inflicted on a patron of a public accommodation.

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Old 09-05-2013, 03:20 AM
 
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Should Religious Business Owners Have Serve LGBT?
No.
 
Old 09-05-2013, 06:58 AM
 
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Very quite.
Republican "jeezus"??? You are aware people all over the world believe in Jesus right? And there are no "Republicans there. Do you people ever use your brain??

So you pointing out hypocrisy in the bible?
He's referring to the unique interpretation of Jesus found in the United States due to the invention of Fundamentalism and the use of Conservative Christianity in politics.
 
Old 09-05-2013, 07:05 AM
 
Location: The West
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He's referring to the unique interpretation of Jesus found in the United States due to the invention of Fundamentalism and the use of Conservative Christianity in politics.
Shouldn't you be on the misc?
 
Old 09-05-2013, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Should we force Jews to eat Pork?
Completely irrelevant example. If Jews choose not to eat pork, that had no negative impact on anyone else. However, if Christians (or Jews, or Muslims, or atheists) refuse service to someone at a place of business because they are gay, that is discrimination. See the difference?
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