UCLA student gov't to ban 'Illegal immigrant,' says phrase violates "human rights" (minimum wage, borders)

[Packard fan]

Originally Posted by Bonker

My ethnic group never had immigration laws. I'm an original American. How about you?

American Indians came from Asia, I'm guessing you're part AI?

Tho I'm 100 percent sure if a bunch of other Indians try to enter the land the Apache roamed on; there'd be a real nasty fight and many people would've died.

None of which means anything in 2013. It' just history.

[uggabugga]

Originally Posted by malamute

So do you also support unlimited immigration to the USA for all Europeans and Canadians? Or only from all Latin American nations? Or just unlimited immigration from Mexico and other Central American nations? Do you believe there should be no immigration laws in the USA only - but countries like Mexico can limit immigration? Do you support unlimited immigration from all Asian and African nations?

And would you say that Mexicans are racist because their country does have immigration laws and would certainly never allow 1/5 of Americans to move into Mexico? I have never once seen a La Raza type demand that his/her own country end all immigration laws and allow everyone to move into Mexico.

all great questions. enough to drive the bots bonkers.

[JoulesMSU]

Freedom of movement, freedom to live where you want, and freedom to work where you want ARE basic human rights.

Some of you have your heads so far up your asses you just can't see that for some reason.

[JoulesMSU]

Originally Posted by uggabugga

all great questions. enough to drive the bots bonkers.

I'll take a stab at them:

So do you also support unlimited immigration to the USA for all Europeans and Canadians? Yes

Or only from all Latin American nations? Not "only", anywhere

Or just unlimited immigration from Mexico and other Central American nations? Not "only", anywhere

Do you believe there should be no immigration laws in the USA only - but countries like Mexico can limit immigration? No, Mexico should not limit immigration either. No country should have immigration laws

Do you support unlimited immigration from all Asian and African nations? Yes


Pretty easy.

[Kracer]

Only east of the iron curtain and liberal universities can some organization be proud of banning a 'word' and limiting speech.

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by Bonker

My ethnic group never had immigration laws. I'm an original American. How about you?

If you are a Native American, how did that "no immigration laws" work out for your people?

[LauraC]

The government (IRS) still calls them aliens.

Taxation of Resident Aliens

[IBMMuseum]

Originally Posted by LauraC

The government (IRS) still calls them aliens.

Taxation of Resident Aliens

Sure, but also strangely calls them "aliens" even they are "non-resident", and have never been in the United States: http://www.irs.gov/uac/Form-1040NR,-...ome-Tax-Return

An "alien" can thus be an immigrant with legal residency here, to a foreigner living somewhere else...

[Fuselage]

Originally Posted by SamBarrow

This is not a complicated concept, and I "got it" from the second I read the OP.

But um, innocent until proven guilty doesn't protect you from stigma. It protects you from the government locking your ass up. Outside of that context, the concept is nothing more than your own personal preference. Thus irrelevant.

It may be irrelevant to you and me, but the guys at UCLA see it differently. That's their prerogative. Personally, I think it preposterous nitpicking, but sometimes, that's what needs to be done in order to affect change in a society. Many people didn't think that calling blacks the N-word was a big deal. What's wrong with it? They are what they are. It took a bit of effort (and still takes effort) to eradicate such usage.

Is PC out of control? You betcha - everybody can be offended about everything.

[Oldglory]

Originally Posted by Fuselage

It may be irrelevant to you and me, but the guys at UCLA see it differently. That's their prerogative. Personally, I think it preposterous nitpicking, but sometimes, that's what needs to be done in order to affect change in a society. Many people didn't think that calling blacks the N-word was a big deal. What's wrong with it? They are what they are. It took a bit of effort (and still takes effort) to eradicate such usage.

Is PC out of control? You betcha - everybody can be offended about everything.

So you are comparing using derogatory words towards "American" blacks to using lawful immigration terms to non-citizens who violated our immigration laws? Really? It's the same thing?