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Old 09-04-2013, 04:23 AM
 
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These kinds of people always existed. In the 70s, people did the same thing with records.
It's no where near the same. Records, tapes and any of those things are not portable or easily portable. Cassette comes close but that was a PITA. If they wanted to listen to their music on that new fangled 8 track player in their car? One CD can produce a music file that can be any format I want it to be that I can use anywhere; portable music player, MP3 cd player, my computer, any smart device I have networked in my house and on an on. It's no longer tied to a single device or format and there is nothing on the horizon that is better at least as far as the average person is concerned.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:28 AM
 
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Patent/copyright law needs to specific to each industry. Current patent law in the pharmaceutical industry is too short while current patent/copyright law in the software industry is stunting innovation.
I'd agree that it has to be looked at for different types of patents, the trouble is tech is moving so fast by the time the patent runs out it's useless to anyone else.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:46 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Copyright and patent laws are fundamental building blocks of a capitalists society. You cannot expect someone to work for weeks, months or years and then not have the means to be compensated for it. Why bother unless you're doing it becsue you love it? Certainly some artists may do it but the masses won't.

That said there needs to be some changes to both copyright and patent. Copyright is far too long and patent laws are abused regularly.
Note : selling someone else's production or invention is criminal... no objections there.
But making a non-commercial copy should not be a crime.
Of course, with software, no one "sells" it, anyway. That's how the lawyers danced around the issue - by EULA. All you buy now is the permission to use it.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:58 AM
 
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Obviously.... "Knowledge" was not "key" in making this thread or the twisted logic behind it

As a musician, I am sure that you downloading my music without paying is theft and hope you will be prosecuted and have a criminal record afterward

I will not lose one second of sleep whatsoever over you being prosecuted for theft as you know that you are stealing and don't care because you think you are better than others

I don't download music. I stream it through Youtube or Grooveshark.
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:05 AM
 
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I cant believe this thread is still going..
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:06 AM
 
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I don't download music. I stream it through Youtube or Grooveshark.
Your computer needs to download it, in order to play the stream.
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:09 AM
 
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But making a non-commercial copy should not be a crime.
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That depends on what the non commercial use is, if you're ripping a copy of CD for your friend...
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:13 AM
 
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I don't download music. I stream it through Youtube or Grooveshark.
Whether it's streamed or a file it's still infringement if the copy is unauthorized.

As far as Youtube goes this was already covered, those videos are allowed to exist because the copyright owner is taking a cut of the ad revenue. If the owner wants it removed, it's gone. Do you really think those songs with millions of hits have gone under the radar? LOL
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I don't feel bad going and getting a bit torrent download of windows that I've already paid for because I can't find the damn disk I used a year ago.
If you couldn't find your camera when you needed it, is it OK for you to get another one by stealing it just because you paid for it once already?
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I cant believe this thread is still going..
It continues because the OP keeps copying his point over and over.
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