"Under God" in Pledge is under review in state court (government, votes)
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Family unit and community groups have been breaking down for a number of years now.
All that's left is the government via K-12 education for young people.
Agree with that.
Things aren't improving in that area anytime soon. Both parents are required to work to support a family (for most) so there's less time for the kids and probably more social issues related to our current conditions.
That's what I mean about "Being under God" though. God is not greedy. He wouldn't approve of corporations hoarding and wasting millions why many American's basic needs aren't being met.
They don't respect the majority (78% of Americans are Christians) and wants to please themselves....Let us have the way the majority want!
So if the majority of people in this country thought it was ok to own slaves...you'd be ok with slavery because it is what the majority wants?
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Atheists are an embarrassment to this nation, and no wonder why we are in decline.
If you think this nation's current problems are all rooted in the fact not everyone believes in a god (and, of course, as you point out by your use of the word, "biblical", you mean the correct god), then you really need to pay a bit more attention to the world around you.
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as well as making the communists more happy.
Yeah...we don't want to make the godless commies and the socialits happy... Wait...wasn't the pledge written by a Socialist?
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I respect people who don't believe in God, but keep it to yourself and stop challenging any religion in public.
Everyone has as much of a right as you to express their religious beliefs (or lack thereof).
Many people are fearful of the word "God" and what it stands for. It's part of a growing movement to turn the US secular.
With no religion and no reference to any religious deity then government can be your "god".
With no god and no religion we won't have the social issues we currently do regarding abortion, contraception, LGBT rights.
Religious people can go off and live in the shadows and have no voice in politics.
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It's part of a growing movement to turn the US secular.
Isn't that what smart people call..."Un fait accompli"? The US is a secular nation.
The opposite is being proposed; that the US become a "more godly nation"..."One nation under God".
America is not and never has been a nation under God...except to those with the delusion to believe so.
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With no religion and no reference to any religious deity then government can be your "god".
...Or govenment can be a means to change and better conditions in this nation with no reverance or prayers needed.
Things aren't improving in that area anytime soon. Both parents are required to work to support a family (for most) so there's less time for the kids and probably more social issues related to our current conditions.
That's what I mean about "Being under God" though. God is not greedy. He wouldn't approve of corporations hoarding and wasting millions why many American's basic needs aren't being met.
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Things aren't improving in that area anytime soon. Both parents are required to work to support a family (for most) so there's less time for the kids and probably more social issues related to our current conditions.
Lets all pray for better working conditions and higher wages...seems when those that actively seek for those conditions, the right "Boo-Hoos" them as socialists and malcontents.
Those words were not part of the original pledge, they were added in the 1950s.
Republicans keep shouting and wailing that we should return to the original constitution; they should back this effort to reinstate the original pledge.
Forget that, just get rid of the pledge altogether. I'm a patriotic Canadian and if we had something as completely weird as this pledge I would NEVER repeat it. The only other countries of the world who indoctrinated their kids to this degree were either Nazis or Communists.
Many people are fearful of the word "God" and what it stands for.
It's part of a growing movement to turn the US secular. With no religion and no reference to any religious deity then government can be your "god".
With no god and no religion we won't have the social issues we currently do regarding abortion, contraception, LGBT rights.
Religious people can go off and live in the shadows and have no voice in politics.
Aaargh this sentiment drives me NUTS.
What exactly does that mean? I don't want any god, and government is made up of wholly human people.
Just because you can't live without some God like figure to guide you, doesn't mean the rest of us need one. And the government hardly fits that bill, nor do we want it to.
It's one of those utterly meaningless statements that's thrown around while people nod their heads in sage agreement, because it sounds like something - but it means nothing and is not even a squibbly bit true. We don't have a void that needs filling, thank you all the same.
What exactly does that mean? I don't want any god, and government is made up of wholly human people.
Just because you can't live without some God like figure to guide you, doesn't mean the rest of us need one. And the government hardly fits that bill, nor do we want it to.
It's one of those utterly meaningless statements that's thrown around while people nod their heads in sage agreement, because it sounds like something - but it means nothing and is not even a squibbly bit true. We don't have a void that needs filling, thank you all the same.
If you have no religion then who will object to abortion, gay rights and contraceptives ?
Government tells you what is moral and what is not via legislation.
Abortion was illegal but not it's not right ?
Life begins in the womb when the government says it does..right ?
Can't object to gay lifestyle when there is no Bible to quote..right ?
Get rid of religion and the government will legislate your morals.
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