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Old 09-09-2013, 03:29 PM
 
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MAYBE you should learn your history, the first SLAVE OWNER in the United States, was a black man. You should look to Mr Anthony Johnson for their problems in the U.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_(colonist)

As for the rest of your drivel, I'll let everyone else deal with it.
That's mighty of you... wikipedia? Lol...

 
Old 09-09-2013, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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What type of crimes are we talking about here?
Murder, robbery, rape, and felonious assault. Do a bit of research online, just enter "race and crime statistics by race in the USA" into your search engine. The findings not propaganda from the KKK or the Stormfront website. Keep in mind that many crime stats lump Hispanics together with non Hispanic Whites, which alters the numbers. Taken separately, non Hispanic Whites commit crimes at a far lower rate than do racial minorities, with the exception of Asians, at about half the rate of Whites. Sadly, Asians seem to be catching up as those American born become more like the rest of society. Yes, yes, we know that there are many very safe black neighborhoods and poor white trash places that are extremely hazardous. Many of these are in the South, where a tradition of violence still exists, often among those of Scotch-Irish ancestry whose forefathers were the original settlers.
 
Old 09-09-2013, 03:41 PM
 
Location: USA
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Russia is such a peaceful country.


The Italian and Irish Mobs in this country were a breath of fresh air in the 30's.



How small some people's perspectives are.
 
Old 09-09-2013, 09:56 PM
 
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I would wager you don't know 10 black people of any ethnicity. Let alone enough to form your wild conclusion.
you would lose that bet. as i said the hotel i worked at in shenandoah national park had about 40 or so from jamaica, i even dated one for a season. she was a wonderful lady.
 
Old 09-09-2013, 10:36 PM
 
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It seems to me that white society is not willing to take responsibility by acknowledging that many problems have resulted from actions that they have taken in the world. Here in America, their narrative is that over 300 years of racial oppression has nothing to do with many problems that are disproportionate in the African American community.
umm OP, you do realize that the U.S. is not near 300 years old?

If you measure from the Declaration of Independence (1776), then it's 237 years old. England recognized the United States in 1783, so if you ask them the U.S. is 230 years old.
 
Old 09-09-2013, 10:40 PM
 
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It seems to me that white society is not willing to take responsibility by acknowledging that many problems have resulted from actions that they have taken in the world. Here in America, their narrative is that over 300 years of racial oppression has nothing to do with many problems that are disproportionate in the African American community. There actions, if you are to believe it, produced no adverse reaction.

When I look at many of the problems in the world today, especially the Middle East and parts of Africa, most of those problems are rooted in one thing and that is BORDERS (which is related to resource allocation). Likely the biggest source of friction in the Middle East is Israel. Who created the modern Israel? It was created essentially from European colonial territories, who controlled the area as part of its empire. That single act has created much of the tensions in the Middle East, as well as, Arabs and Muslims trying to regain lost territories resulting from borders created by Europeans. Remember when Iraq invaded Kuwait...based upon border disputes? What peoples created those borders? How about the conflict between India and Pakistan and how that is related to colonial legacy?

In fact, one of the main reason for instability in many, if not most, parts of the world has to do with borders created by Europeans which grouped and divided peoples without respect to the history of those areas. Borders were drawn for the resource interest of European imperialist nations, as the carved up and divided the world like a pizza and would absorb the calories to make themselves fatter. The lack of homogeneity in these European created nations breed conflict and the Europeans often pitted and favored some tribes or groups over others, creating dissension and keeping the people from unifying and working against the colonizers who were exploiting the people, the land and its resources.

Yet, when these regions and or nations are discussed, they are looked down upon, frowned upon and seen as the origin of their own problems. In fact, much of their problems is the result of the legacy left by European imperialism, just like many of the problems in the African American community are the result of European Racism.
I refuse to take a post seriously from an individual who hasn't the slightest clue as to the correct usage of "their/there/they're."

Not to mention, this entire rant is racist as hell.
 
Old 09-09-2013, 11:11 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I refuse to take a post seriously from an individual who hasn't the slightest clue as to the correct usage of "their/there/they're."

Not to mention, this entire rant is racist as hell.
 
Old 09-09-2013, 11:22 PM
 
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Oh, how cute. I see what you did there.
 
Old 09-09-2013, 11:51 PM
 
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I take issue with the word blame. It seems like such an easy excuse rather than really looking at the validity of someone's argument. This isn't about blame, but rather providing explanations about why things are the way they are and why changes won't (and really can't) be made overnight.

Considering where we've started from and the amount of time we've been allowed full freedom in the US, blacks are doing FANTASTIC! Has everyone of us taken full advantage of our opportunities? No. But the same can be said for all races, including whites who have no history of oppression in the US.
No, you are not doing fantastic. And it is not because of the amount of time you've been allowed full freedom, because you're doing worse since civil rights than you were before in major areas.

And that is the key factor that liberals consistently ignore: the decline of the black family started AFTER the civil rights movement. You cannot rationally blame Jim Crow for trends which started after Jim Crow laws were abolished.

It is perfectly reasonable to say that the average black salary is lower than the average white salary due to the after effects of repression and prejudice. No intelligent person could disagree with that. However, single motherhood is the #1 determining factor in poverty and poverty is the main cause of juvenile crime, drug use, teen pregnancy, and lack of educational achievement. And blacks have the highest rate of single motherhood of any race. However, prior to the civil rights movement blacks actually had a greater family stability rate than whites.

And that is why the liberals are still talking about Jim Crow half a century after it ended - to distract from the fact that it is their policies which are holding blacks back today. As individuals, black people are every bit the equal of white people. But the black illegitimacy rate is 73% today and blacks are three times more likely to be on public assistance. It has nothing to do with blacks being in any way inferior. But it also has nothing to do with systemic prejudice against blacks either. It has to do with the multigenerational poverty that results from a welfare state with epidemic levels of single parent households.

All you have to do to prove this is look at the Asians. They started out in this country being discriminated against as well. Tens of thousands of them were rounded up and put into internment camps during WW2. Yet today they are ahead of the privileged white majority, with higher salaries and lower crime rates. And they have the lowest illegitimacy rates and the highest cultural emphasis on work and study.

As long as liberals keep bringing up Jim Crow and using racial identity to get people to vote against Republicans, and as long as black people keep swallowing that propaganda they will keep trying to solve the racial problems of 1963 instead of working on solving the racial problems of 2013. When Joe Biden said that Republicans want to put black people back in chains, he may have done himself a favor by getting some more votes but he didn't do the black people he was speaking to any favors by diverting their attention from the real problems plaguing society today. It isn't 1963 anymore.
 
Old 09-09-2013, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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There is a ****ing LEGACY in this country which revolves around the devaluation of anything that is black or African including LIFE! This idea comes directly from slavery and the century that followed.

Today, 72% of black kids are born to single mothers.

This illegitimacy rate has increased steadily since the 1960s when real racism was more commonplace.

How is it white people have devalued all things "black and African" when the overwhelming majority of black mothers don't value their black children enough to give them a real father?

You can accept responsibility for being your own worst enemy, or you can go to war with common sense.
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