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Old 09-04-2013, 01:56 PM
 
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It seems to me that white society is not willing to take responsibility by acknowledging that many problems have resulted from actions that they have taken in the world. Here in America, their narrative is that over 300 years of racial oppression has nothing to do with many problems that are disproportionate in the African American community. There actions, if you are to believe it, produced no adverse reaction.

When I look at many of the problems in the world today, especially the Middle East and parts of Africa, most of those problems are rooted in one thing and that is BORDERS (which is related to resource allocation). Likely the biggest source of friction in the Middle East is Israel. Who created the modern Israel? It was created essentially from European colonial territories, who controlled the area as part of its empire. That single act has created much of the tensions in the Middle East, as well as, Arabs and Muslims trying to regain lost territories resulting from borders created by Europeans. Remember when Iraq invaded Kuwait...based upon border disputes? What peoples created those borders? How about the conflict between India and Pakistan and how that is related to colonial legacy?

In fact, one of the main reason for instability in many, if not most, parts of the world has to do with borders created by Europeans which grouped and divided peoples without respect to the history of those areas. Borders were drawn for the resource interest of European imperialist nations, as the carved up and divided the world like a pizza and would absorb the calories to make themselves fatter. The lack of homogeneity in these European created nations breed conflict and the Europeans often pitted and favored some tribes or groups over others, creating dissension and keeping the people from unifying and working against the colonizers who were exploiting the people, the land and its resources.

Yet, when these regions and or nations are discussed, they are looked down upon, frowned upon and seen as the origin of their own problems. In fact, much of their problems is the result of the legacy left by European imperialism, just like many of the problems in the African American community are the result of European Racism.
Who sold the Africans into slavery?

** FELLOW AFRICANS **

Blame yourselves for the slavery issue, blame yourselves for the fact you never developed beyond the hunter-gatherer stage, blame yourselves for wanting nothing better in life than for others to feed/clothe/house you....

Blame yourselves for carrying on the traditions of your tribes in Africa (killing each other because he/she looked at you the wrong way)....

Blame yourselves for never getting beyond the cave-man mentality...

When African tribes took foreign African tribes as slaves and servants (for many many centuries) wasn't that still called "racial oppression"?

 
Old 09-04-2013, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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Who sold the Africans into slavery?

** FELLOW AFRICANS **

Blame yourselves for the slavery issue, blame yourselves for the fact you never developed beyond the hunter-gatherer stage, blame yourselves for wanting nothing better in life than for others to feed/clothe/house you....

Blame yourselves for carrying on the traditions of your tribes in Africa (killing each other because he/she looked at you the wrong way)....

Blame yourselves for never going beyond the cave-man mentality...

How about what happened when blacks were freed from slavery. Want to know what they did? They went to Liberia and put the dark skinned blacks to slavery.
 
Old 09-04-2013, 02:03 PM
 
Location: USA
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Who sold the Africans into slavery?

** FELLOW AFRICANS **

Blame yourselves for the slavery issue, blame yourselves for the fact you never developed beyond the hunter-gatherer stage, blame yourselves for wanting nothing better in life than for others to feed/clothe/house you....

Blame yourselves for carrying on the traditions of your tribes in Africa (killing each other because he/she looked at you the wrong way)....

Blame yourselves for never getting beyond the cave-man mentality...
You need to blame yourself for not knowing your history.



Never developed beyond hunter gathering stage??


Where do you think a lot of Greek culture and architecture came from? Do you know that the educational capitol of the world used to be in the Middle East? Meanwhile, "christianity" was being manipulated and used to dumb down the people of Europe.



Did you know that Africans visited America long before the Vikings? Ever heard of the Great Pyramids? The dams built in Africa?





Your showing your lack of knowledge.




There is no superior race.
 
Old 09-04-2013, 02:03 PM
 
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My 2 cents. Colonial days were not about racism. They were about power and exerting power for economic reasons. Slavery was first about economics. People were a commodity. Slavery has shown up throughout history. Power over people for economic reasons. It is about power today. There are many, many blacks who are doing very, very well in all sorts of arenas and more particularly sports, media, military and politics. They have power and many use it. They are the "quiet" minority except for black politicians where making noise is essential. BTW, the 4 star Army general in command of Central Command (CENTCOM) is black. Think he doesn't have power? Authority? He does. If given the go ahead, he is in charge of hitting Syria on behalf of our nation. I doubt he is thinking about "colonial days" and slavery. He thinks power, position and when he retires, he will be brought onto the corporate boards of a dozen companies where he will become a multimillionaire.

Many Arab states were the result of WW I when the Ottomans fell from "POWER". A white british officer better known as Laurence of Arabia helped guide the Arabs in defeat of the Turks. The House of Saud got the land we call Saudi Arabia. Jordan was carved out for the Hashemites. Israel was carved out of Palestine. Kuwait and the Emirates were created. Fact is, only Syria, Israel, and Egypt are originals in that region along with the Iran and Iraq (Persians and Assyrians). The rest were all invented but not based on racism but on which side of the war were you on. If you lost, you lost territory. Bangladesh was invented. Such is the way of mankind. It is about power whether you are black, white, asian or whatever. No power? Doesn't much matter what color your skin is.
 
Old 09-04-2013, 02:04 PM
 
Location: USA
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It's people with your views that keep blacks down.

There's a reason why you guys bring more crime and poverty than any other race... and it's no one's fault but your own people.


I don't see the Irish complaining anymore, remember how they were treated? How about the Chinese? Vietnemese? The Japenese were put in CONCENTRATION CAMPS here.
Guess you must've forgot about the Italians and Irish. You know, "Gangster City." Guess you thought that came from black culture.
 
Old 09-04-2013, 02:08 PM
 
Location: texas
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He is like a superhero, except his magical power is the ability to read racism into any situation
Is your super Hero power the ability not to see racism where it exists?
 
Old 09-04-2013, 02:08 PM
 
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Look at what happens when black Africans take over and rule a white ruled country (South Africa)...

Descends into chaos
 
Old 09-04-2013, 02:11 PM
 
Location: USA
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Look at what happens when black Africans take over and rule a white ruled country (South Africa)...

Descends into chaos
Great mindset for a Police officer.
 
Old 09-04-2013, 02:13 PM
 
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Is your super Hero power the ability not to see racism where it exists?
My superhero power is to realize that every time we talk about racism like this, we perpetuate stereotypes and harm racial relations as a whole.

I actually want racism to be a thing of the past, which is why I am frustrated with racists such as the OP.
 
Old 09-04-2013, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Indentured Servant View Post
It seems to me that white society is not willing to take responsibility by acknowledging that many problems have resulted from actions that they have taken in the world. Here in America, their narrative is that over 300 years of racial oppression has nothing to do with many problems that are disproportionate in the African American community. There actions, if you are to believe it, produced no adverse reaction.

When I look at many of the problems in the world today, especially the Middle East and parts of Africa, most of those problems are rooted in one thing and that is BORDERS (which is related to resource allocation). Likely the biggest source of friction in the Middle East is Israel. Who created the modern Israel? It was created essentially from European colonial territories, who controlled the area as part of its empire. That single act has created much of the tensions in the Middle East, as well as, Arabs and Muslims trying to regain lost territories resulting from borders created by Europeans. Remember when Iraq invaded Kuwait...based upon border disputes? What peoples created those borders? How about the conflict between India and Pakistan and how that is related to colonial legacy?

In fact, one of the main reason for instability in many, if not most, parts of the world has to do with borders created by Europeans which grouped and divided peoples without respect to the history of those areas. Borders were drawn for the resource interest of European imperialist nations, as the carved up and divided the world like a pizza and would absorb the calories to make themselves fatter. The lack of homogeneity in these European created nations breed conflict and the Europeans often pitted and favored some tribes or groups over others, creating dissension and keeping the people from unifying and working against the colonizers who were exploiting the people, the land and its resources.

Yet, when these regions and or nations are discussed, they are looked down upon, frowned upon and seen as the origin of their own problems. In fact, much of their problems is the result of the legacy left by European imperialism, just like many of the problems in the African American community are the result of European Racism.

Can you be a little more specific...How is any of the above my fault? I'm white and was born in the early 1980's in the USofA.
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