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Old 09-04-2013, 03:12 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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MoveOn.org sent out an email that was surprising in its honesty. The only thing they got wrong, was where they said "right-wing groups" were "misleading" young people... because the same email went on to describe what the groups are saying, and it's the truth.

The rest seems to be dead on.

Unusual for a group whose very name is derived from their birth during the Clinton administration, when they kept urging people to not dwell on the facts being brought out about Bill and Hillary and their agenda, but to "move on" to the next issue, whatever it was at the time.

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MoveOn's ObamaCare Honesty

by James Taranto

The other day we got a surprisingly candid email from MoveOn.org:

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Starting on October 1, America will take a huge step towards universal health care. That's the day that 22 million uninsured Americans will be able to start getting affordable health insurance under Obamacare.

But now, with just weeks to go, right-wing groups have launched a multi-million-dollar campaign to torpedo Obamacare before it even gets started.

Their plan: Mislead young people about how the law works so they get scared and don't enroll. The problem is that it really could work because if younger, healthier people don't participate, then costs will skyrocket and Obamacare will fail. Period.

It's disgusting--people could actually die because they don't get the health insurance they need, and our entire health care system would be thrown into chaos. But these groups are so blinded by hate for Barack Obama that they'll do anything to make his signature program go up in smoke.

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The email doesn't actually say what's supposed to be "misleading" about the ads, most likely because the ads are telling the truth--that ObamaCare depends on overcharging young, healthy people for insurance. MoveOn implicitly admits that: Why else would costs "skyrocket" if they don't participate?

But look what else MoveOn is admitting: that "people could actually die" and there's a good chance "our entire health care system would be thrown into chaos"--because of ObamaCare!
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:45 PM
 
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The email doesn't actually say what's supposed to be "misleading" about the ads
Yeah, because they haven't started...that's why the author expresses their opinion about the plan, not the actual adds.

Reading comprehension is fundamental. Especially when you paste that part into the OP.

Considering the claims about death panels, 650,000 jobs lost according to the CBO, and over 40 claims they were going to actually repeal it this time that turned out to be lies...I think there is a pretty good track record of right wing groups trying to mislead people.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:13 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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As expected, no one is able to disprove what the groups said, because they are telling the truth.

The most significant part of the email, as noted in the OP, is MoveOn's admission that our entire health care system would be thrown into chaos because of Obamacare requirements, and Americans' disinterest in signing up for them.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:25 PM
 
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But aren't healthy young males 26-35 getting screwed by paying 2-3x their premiums with obamacare starting in 2014.

My friend is healthy 30 year with a Tenn Blue cross $2500 HSA plan he pays $112 a month. Starting next year he pays $270.

Why doesn't moveon.org say that young people like him get screwed. Oh he makes 401% of poverty but his 27 year old co partner in self employed business make 399% of poverty so gets a huge tax subsidy just because he makes 1% believe the 400% cut off.

How's that's fair and affordable for young adults moveon.org?
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:43 PM
 
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As expected, no one is able to disprove what the groups said, because they are telling the truth.

The most significant part of the email, as noted in the OP, is MoveOn's admission that our entire health care system would be thrown into chaos because of Obamacare requirements, and Americans' disinterest in signing up for them.
That's awesome, after one hour and a little more than a dozen views...victory. Ignoring the only post.

Talk about self delusion.
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