Sticker price for Obamacare: $300/month premiums for young to middle-aged adults (generations, Miami)
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the problem is the people who get medical care and don't pay for it (e.g. ER) plus those who delay treatment because they're not insured, and end up with an expensive problem.
You can always goto cash-based practices. It's not like those aren't in existence either. The ER is just a common option because the US has a fix health problems logic rather than PREVENT health problems logic. I defy someone challenge that doesn't exist.
Right now:
Young and healthy subsidize mature workers in group policies.
Childless people subsidize maternity benefits for others in group policies.
Singles subsidize family coverage in group policies.
Mature and healthy subsidize young and sick in group policies.
Healthy, regardless of age, subsidize those with pre-existing conditions in group policies.
Non smokers subsidize the cost of smokers in group policies.
Insured drivers subsidize uninsured drivers.
The baby boom substantially subsidized their parent's generation.
Active employees subsidize retired folk.
Childless people subsidize the schools via property taxes.
People who do not live in fill in the blank prone areas subsidize those who do.
People with no or fewer children subsidize those with many children via deductions and credits.
People with no mortgages subsidize those with mortgages.
People who pay their bills subsidize those who do not.
People who do not commit crimes subsidize those who are convicted of crimes.
People with homes that have never caught on fire subsidize those with homes that burn to the ground.
You're assuming that those of us who don't like Obamacare support these policies. Some of us don't. Those that have to do with healthcare largely started with Nixon when health care became tied to employment. I'd rather there not be tax benefits at all for buying health insurance through your employer, which stop those subsidies you mentioned. Instead it would be like car insurance, where you pay according to your risk.
Finally the people who bought into the communist based fraud of obamacare are realizing it's not good for you. I knew that before the s.o.b. was put in the Whitehouse in the 08 election!
Finally the people who bought into the communist based fraud of obamacare are realizing it's not good for you. I knew that before the s.o.b. was put in the Whitehouse in the 08 election!
It will only be worse when we see the so-called "death panels" are a real thing.
I agree Obamacare is a problem waiting to happen but it is a step in the right direction, minus the individual mandate and the full-time provisions that hurt the pocketbook of the people who will need it the most. Those that make just above minimum wage but over the poverty line provision of Obamacare.
Those people who don't have insurance aren't going to tell the ambulance driver to let them die by the side of the road. They're going to leach off of the system as people have been doing for a long time. Those without insurance still get care, it just comes at the cost of others in the health system.
What you're talking about is a nice pipe dream, but it doesn't exist in practice.
How about you accept the ambulance ride and then pay for it, like one does for other services?
Don't try to tell me that doesn't exist in practice. I went without health insurance for many years. I could afford it, but I decided I'd be better off saving my money and paying my own way if I needed to, and I know a fair number of people who made the same judgment call.
When you're young and healthy, insurance companies figure they can make more money off your premiums than they're going to pay out on your expenses in a given year. Guess what? They're right!
I'm highly skeptical of the claim that uninsured people skipping out on bills is a significant factor in the health care costs. As I said earlier, I think it's a BS justification for forcing people to buy policies on which insurance companies can make more money, in order to offset the costs of complying with Obamacare.
Right now:
Young and healthy subsidize mature workers in group policies.
Childless people subsidize maternity benefits for others in group policies.
Singles subsidize family coverage in group policies.
Mature and healthy subsidize young and sick in group policies.
Healthy, regardless of age, subsidize those with pre-existing conditions in group policies.
Non smokers subsidize the cost of smokers in group policies.
Insured drivers subsidize uninsured drivers.
The baby boom substantially subsidized their parent's generation.
Active employees subsidize retired folk.
Childless people subsidize the schools via property taxes.
People who do not live in fill in the blank prone areas subsidize those who do.
People with no or fewer children subsidize those with many children via deductions and credits.
People with no mortgages subsidize those with mortgages.
People who pay their bills subsidize those who do not.
People who do not commit crimes subsidize those who are convicted of crimes.
People with homes that have never caught on fire subsidize those with homes that burn to the ground.
How about you accept the ambulance ride and then pay for it, like one does for other services?
Don't try to tell me that doesn't exist in practice. I went without health insurance for many years. I could afford it, but I decided I'd be better off saving my money and paying my own way if I needed to, and I know a fair number of people who made the same judgment call.
When you're young and healthy, insurance companies figure they can make more money off your premiums than they're going to pay out on your expenses in a given year. Guess what? They're right!
I'm highly skeptical of the claim that uninsured people skipping out on bills is a significant factor in the health care costs. As I said earlier, I think it's a BS justification for forcing people to buy policies on which insurance companies can make more money, in order to offset the costs of complying with Obamacare.
Take a ride to Jackson Hospital in Miami - look around their ER, clinics, etc. Almost ALL of the people you see being treated cannot pay for their medical care. This is the situation for every urban hospital in the US.
Take a ride to Jackson Hospital in Miami - look around their ER, clinics, etc. Almost ALL of the people you see being treated cannot pay for their medical care. This is the situation for every urban hospital in the US.
I live in a major city in the northeast. An ex-girlfriend of mine worked in a hospital, and I overheard this when picking her up once. A lady was in the ER complaining that she had a sore throat. The nurse at the desk asked why she didn't go to her regular doctor instead of the ER. The lady looked really confused and said "you are my regular doctor".
Take a ride to Jackson Hospital in Miami - look around their ER, clinics, etc. Almost ALL of the people you see being treated cannot pay for their medical care. This is the situation for every urban hospital in the US.
Almost ALL don't have insurance, MediCare or Medicaid? More importantly, how do know they can afford insurance, but don't want it, or don't think it's worth the money? Have you polled them?
No jobs, college loans,historical government debt ,pension liabilities, socialized medicine, broken S.S.,endless wars, its time for americas youth to quit voting for the guy with catchy slogans.
right, because mccain clearly would've fixed the healthcare system.
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The ER is just a common option because the US has a fix health problems logic rather than PREVENT health problems logic. I defy someone challenge that doesn't exist.
