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Old 09-08-2013, 08:52 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Carbon taxes and credits are simply a scheme by corporations to have total control all carbon based energy.
When will people wise up and connect the dots?
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Carbon taxes and credits are simply a scheme by corporations to have total control all carbon based energy.
When will people wise up and connect the dots?
The failed Copenhagen treaty talks woke me up.
Al Gore was desperate and China rallied countries to collapse the entire deal.

We owe China for that one otherwise Gore and Goldman Sachs would be making money hand over fist trading carbon credits on Wall Street for US companies.
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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And what reality is that pray tell? Did you read your own link?had nothing to do with"greenies" at all...it has to do with mega polluters not taking blame and paying and instead passing what basically amounts to the company's fine off onto consumers...once again...typical
Yes, it is typical. And given that it is typical, perhaps the liberals shouldn't have done the tax. Your last word pretty much refutes your own post.

If you know it is typical for companies to respond to increased taxes by raising prices to increase revenue to cover it, then you know by levying the tax on the companies you are only going to effectively levy the taxes on the company's customers. And when you know the company's customers are poor and middle class people who are forced to pay the increased prices in order to heat and power their homes, then you know before you ever institute the tax that it is a regressive tax on the poor. The liberals knew exactly what was going to happen, as evidenced by the fact that they campaigned on a promise not to institute the tax. The blame is entirely on the liberals' shoulders.

We're seeing this exact same thing now with the liberals in America over Obamacare. They institute massive new regulation in healthcare and when companies respond in predictable ways to that regulation, they try to blame the companies. They try to ignore the completely well known and straightforward cause-and-effect relationship, which is "typical" as you say, and try to pass off a narrative that the companies are greedy and are using this wonderful legislation as an excuse to do evil things they really wanted to do all along. But the CBO had already predicted these results years ago. The liberals knew this was going to happen from the beginning.

The blame shifting going on in cases like this is not the corporations who are simply acting according predictable business practices that have existed for over a century. The blame shifting is being done by the liberals who try to escape the negative reaction to them putting their politics ahead of the good of the people by putting out propaganda that their policies have nothing to do with the consequences those policies produce. Even when those consequences were known before they enacted the policies in the first place.
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:25 AM
 
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I'm retiring in a couple years. I want the O voters to be taxed to the point where they can't afford food and shelter.

So tax away.
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