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View Poll Results: Do you support the gun control measures that NJ has passed?
Yes 24 32.88%
No 49 67.12%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-21-2013, 08:40 AM
 
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I hope your wife doesn't find the gooey gym sock under your bed. How embarrassing that'd be.
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Old 09-21-2013, 08:48 AM
 
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im not sure why you would want to say something so dumb and childish just so you can play a part in a very childish "my state is better than your state" argument. nobody could draw your conclusion from what he said if they would use actual thought.
Because your reading comprehension is deficient as usual. He educated his kids in NJ and worked here & retired to NC because they don't care much about education and taxes are low. In case you don't travel much, that's par for the course down South. And NC isn't as bad as most Southern states. They don't fund education, they pay teachers poorly and the outcome is more Republican rednecks who love guns & NASCAR. You'd love it in Alabama as I've mentioned already.
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:16 AM
 
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Nobody reads 10 page story dumps. Rule #4 of the Internet.

It's a big country. If you want to move to exciting Montana where you can blow up stuff right outside your backdoor & no crime to speak of, then do it. Most people in densely packed areas think life's stressful enough without worrying about who's packing in the supermarket, on the roads or at a dance recital.
I'm not worried that people may be carrying a gun at the supermarket. They're not bothering me. I AM worried about the way the government is taking away more and more of our freedoms. Severe restrictions on guns is just one aspect of this growing bullying of citizens, which included, as I posted, harassing innocent people to make a quota, making it difficult for chronic pain patients to get their medication and even prosecuting doctors who the DEA deems are prescribing too much such medication. The list could be extending at some length to include such things as arresting people who were videotaping cops from their own yard, carrying too heavy a bookmark onto a plane, raiding homes because they had a high utilities bill (must be growing marijuana in the basement) or because cops can't tell tomato plants from marijuana.
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:45 AM
 
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Because your reading comprehension is deficient as usual. He educated his kids in NJ and worked here & retired to NC because they don't care much about education and taxes are low. In case you don't travel much, that's par for the course down South. And NC isn't as bad as most Southern states. They don't fund education, they pay teachers poorly and the outcome is more Republican rednecks who love guns & NASCAR. You'd love it in Alabama as I've mentioned already.
I don't know his history, but maybe he was born in the area and so that's why he went to work in the area. you cant assume that he wouldn't have been successful had he been born in north Carolina and started his business there.

its not my comprehension that's deficient; its your logic.

also, using your logic, you would also have to assume that everything in north Carolina aside from education and career is better. do you want to make that assumption?
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:47 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Most men drool over Playboy center folds .....not posters of this type of nonsense......besides, Playboy center folds have much better "features" !!!
what are you talking about? im not looking for sexual stimulation; just a gun. you two are very strange. im not sure why a picture of a gun makes you say "id rather be looking at porn while this guy is looking at guns."
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Old 09-21-2013, 12:13 PM
 
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I don't know his history, but maybe he was born in the area and so that's why he went to work in the area. you cant assume that he wouldn't have been successful had he been born in north Carolina and started his business there.

its not my comprehension that's deficient; its your logic.

also, using your logic, you would also have to assume that everything in north Carolina aside from education and career is better. do you want to make that assumption?
Alright, if he comes back he can elaborate. They have nice beaches. And some good basketball teams. But so do we.

And since I dislike uneducated rednecks here in NJ and there's many more of them down south (plus annoying Bible thumpers) I would not like to live there. Personal preference.
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Old 09-21-2013, 12:15 PM
 
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what are you talking about? im not looking for sexual stimulation; just a gun. you two are very strange. im not sure why a picture of a gun makes you say "id rather be looking at porn while this guy is looking at guns."
You were like "oooh, baby, look at this ASSAULT rifle. Isn't she hot" And you call us strange? Dude, you have serious issues.
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Old 09-21-2013, 12:38 PM
 
Location: NJ
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if the background check loopholes were eliminated, less guns would fall into the hands of people who choose to possess them illegally. if technology was allowed to be used in enforcement, when a crime was committed with a gun, it would be infinitely easier to catch the criminals. and if penalties were heavy for illegal possession (like they are in NYC), then people who do possess guns illegally would be taken off the street for longer periods of time.

you're right that most of what has been passed does nothing. some of what has been proposed would be beneficial, but much of what has been proposed is just what politicians know won't be that controversial, and also will appease people calling for action but won't actually accomplush much.

i'd say what's chipping away at those who support effective regulation are the small, but powerful groups that vocally oppose ANY regulation.

i'm curious though - how does "meaningless regulation" chip away at the freedom? if it's meaningless, it must not do much to impede ownership...so?

what words do libs ban? i'm not even sure that paragraph makes sense.

guns enter cities like newark not because of ineffective NJ laws, but because NJ isn't a state with 200 foot walls around it's border.

much of the guns recovered from crimes in the cities in NJ have been traced back to a very few number of originations. isn't that funny?


The word 'gun' has been banned in many schools. Pictures of guns have been banned. I have a picture that a kindergarten kid made by gluing little pieces of glitter into a random shape resembling nothing. When the teacher asked what it was, the kid said a 'a gun'. Teacher asked the kid if he wanted to reconsider naming his art work. He insisted it was a gun. Teacher wriote a note home to his parents telling them his art could not be dispalyed with the others and that guns are not good.

"An 11-year-old boy who hopes to become a Navy SEAL was suspended from a Maryland school after he used the word 'gun' in a conversation on board a school bus."

"A 6-year-old boy who was suspended from his elementary school for making a gun gesture with his hand and saying "pow" is fighting his suspension through a lawyer"

"An attorney for an Anne Arundel County 7-year-old suspended from school for nibbling a breakfast pastry into the shape of a pistol is seeking to have the student's record expunged, and said he plans to appeal to Maryland's highest court if necessary."

Just a few examples of banned words, speech and pictures inschools, plenty more examples.

Every time a crime is commited, whether it relates to guns or not, legislators take advantage, especially if the crime stirs deep emotions, to generate feel good laws that restrict in some way, a simple freedom that used to exist. Crime has a ripple effect in that way. Laws banning certain types of weapons that were commonplace before the ban now make those owners criminals. Kneejerk legisaltion is actually the great slippery slope dems and libs use to advance social justice rules that ban dodge ball and keeping score.

Sufafed went over the counter in the late 70s and now you have to sign for it.

A guy from out west is flying in to allentown gun show with guns he intends to sell. He is above board and leagl and declares the guns. His fly is diverted to newark, an unplanned stop. They put the passengers ona bus to allentown but fail to load the guys luggage so he opts out and stays ata hotel until he can get to allentown the next day with his guns. He declares his guns and gets arrested on some technicality. Not unlike the marine visiting Mexico with a shotgun he declared and was imprisoned. The there was the activist judge that tossed a guy in jail...the same judge CC threw out of office.

Then there was the guy from maine, moving to texas who pulll over to sleep in his vehicle in readington twp. Perfectly legal guns and ammo in TX and ME now extridited from TX and serving time in NJ.

BB guns are now treated the same as a semi-automatic rifle or shotgun. Used to be able to buy a bb gun without an id, now you can't. Many towns used to ban the discharge of firearms and changed the law to 'weapons' to include air rifles/bb guns and archery gear.

Every crime demands more safety regs be legislated to protect us from ourselves. Again restricting behaviors because of the actions of a few. Because your cousin tripped and fell on your neighbors property you are now not allowed to play there. All for your safety.

Guns may have been traced back to a few out of state locations but what is missing is that anyone of Newark's 41 gangs or affiliates in the northeast are the distributors of those guns. Any recent laws to address this problem?

What is also missing is that other towns are without physical borders and they do not have the murder rate of a newark or camden.

Federal reports recognize the prolific distribution of illegal guns in the northeast by gangs. Any gang restrictions... nope the aclu and social justice advocates ensure gang members rights are not infringed upon.
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Old 09-21-2013, 12:52 PM
 
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The word 'gun' has been banned in many schools. Pictures of guns have been banned. I have a picture that a kindergarten kid made by gluing little pieces of glitter into a random shape resembling nothing. When the teacher asked what it was, the kid said a 'a gun'. Teacher asked the kid if he wanted to reconsider naming his art work. He insisted it was a gun. Teacher wriote a note home to his parents telling them his art could not be dispalyed with the others and that guns are not good.

"An 11-year-old boy who hopes to become a Navy SEAL was suspended from a Maryland school after he used the word 'gun' in a conversation on board a school bus."

"A 6-year-old boy who was suspended from his elementary school for making a gun gesture with his hand and saying "pow" is fighting his suspension through a lawyer"

"An attorney for an Anne Arundel County 7-year-old suspended from school for nibbling a breakfast pastry into the shape of a pistol is seeking to have the student's record expunged, and said he plans to appeal to Maryland's highest court if necessary."

Just a few examples of banned words, speech and pictures inschools, plenty more examples.

Every time a crime is commited, whether it relates to guns or not, legislators take advantage, especially if the crime stirs deep emotions, to generate feel good laws that restrict in some way, a simple freedom that used to exist. Crime has a ripple effect in that way. Laws banning certain types of weapons that were commonplace before the ban now make those owners criminals. Kneejerk legisaltion is actually the great slippery slope dems and libs use to advance social justice rules that ban dodge ball and keeping score.

Sufafed went over the counter in the late 70s and now you have to sign for it.

A guy from out west is flying in to allentown gun show with guns he intends to sell. He is above board and leagl and declares the guns. His fly is diverted to newark, an unplanned stop. They put the passengers ona bus to allentown but fail to load the guys luggage so he opts out and stays ata hotel until he can get to allentown the next day with his guns. He declares his guns and gets arrested on some technicality. Not unlike the marine visiting Mexico with a shotgun he declared and was imprisoned. The there was the activist judge that tossed a guy in jail...the same judge CC threw out of office.

Then there was the guy from maine, moving to texas who pulll over to sleep in his vehicle in readington twp. Perfectly legal guns and ammo in TX and ME now extridited from TX and serving time in NJ.

BB guns are now treated the same as a semi-automatic rifle or shotgun. Used to be able to buy a bb gun without an id, now you can't. Many towns used to ban the discharge of firearms and changed the law to 'weapons' to include air rifles/bb guns and archery gear.

Every crime demands more safety regs be legislated to protect us from ourselves. Again restricting behaviors because of the actions of a few. Because your cousin tripped and fell on your neighbors property you are now not allowed to play there. All for your safety.

Guns may have been traced back to a few out of state locations but what is missing is that anyone of Newark's 41 gangs or affiliates in the northeast are the distributors of those guns. Any recent laws to address this problem?

What is also missing is that other towns are without physical borders and they do not have the murder rate of a newark or camden.

Federal reports recognize the prolific distribution of illegal guns in the northeast by gangs. Any gang restrictions... nope the aclu and social justice advocates ensure gang members rights are not infringed upon.
Yeah, we all know how rural, white, gun owners are sooooo persecuted in this country. Trayvon Martin's family is bitching about nothing.
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Old 09-21-2013, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Ocala
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You were like "oooh, baby, look at this ASSAULT rifle. Isn't she hot" And you call us strange? Dude, you have serious issues.
Anyone that posts pictures of his "favorite" assault style weapons and can talk in detail about their "features" like some fanatics talk about sports teams and statistic details clearly spends way too much time studying and memorizing weapon specifications. NO one does this except gun nuts !!!
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