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Old 09-07-2013, 05:53 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I see. So, the maniac wouldn't have killed anyone if he didn't have a gun. Or a knife, or a sword, or a ....insert dangerous object here......
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:54 PM
 
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I see. So, the maniac wouldn't have killed anyone if he didn't have a gun. Or a knife, or a sword, or a ....insert dangerous object here......
I disagree with you. It's not certain.
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:56 PM
 
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He is suspected of child abuse, reckless endangerment and permitting a juvenile to have a firearm.

That makes him a gunnut IMHO. If there was no gun in that house, that woman would still be alive now. Gun ownership kills innocent people.
You are a sick person....
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:02 PM
 
Location: southern california
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guns are inherently evil why do we demand our police and soldiers never be without them
why don't they just talk to people
I'm sure if they just talked to the Taliban in Afghanistan all would be well
if they just talked to the hood rats in Detroit and paid them enough respect there would be no crime there
what is needed is better customer service skills not evil white men with guns pretending to be soldiers and cops
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:03 PM
 
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And you're going off on this tangent because???

I never said anything otherwise.
My "needing" to study reasoning....
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Replace "assault rifle" with any gun that holds high capacity magazines.
define "High Capacity"

And the 2nd Amendment spells it out quit clear, shall not be infringed.
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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The 2nd amendment does not apply to any of those scenarios you mentioned. The 2nd amendment only provides one reason and that is not the general "self-defense" reason which is being discussed here. The 2nd amendment also does not specify "any firearm" like you imply. That is your own injection.

Ok what is the one reason it provides? and I hate to motions it, but it did apply then, and it does apply now.
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:12 PM
 
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guns are inherently evil why do we demand our police and soldiers never be without them
why don't they just talk to people
I'm sure if they just talked to the Taliban in Afghanistan all would be well
if they just talked to the hood rats in Detroit and paid them enough respect there would be no crime there
what is needed is better customer service skills not evil white men with guns pretending to be soldiers and cops
I am always fascinated how someone can ascribe a human condition to an inanimate object consisting of steel and wood. Only a LSD has the capacity to do that. Thugs deserve no respect.

Also, proper sentence structure, punctuation and use of capitalization would go a long way to making your inane posts more readable.
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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High capacity magazine is one with more than 50 rounds.

Why don't you tell me why a law abiding citizen shouldn't be allowed to own them?
Many reason

So-called “gun control” has always used semantic deception. What the gun confiscators want to do is apply “needs” to situations that more accurately require “wants”.

No one “needs” a seat belt. After all, 99.999 percent of your driving time you don’t “need” a seatbelt. You only “need” a seat belt during an automobile crash. Do you want a seatbelt? Of course! No one would even debate this issue.
To a greater or lesser degree, the same goes for property insurance, fire extinguishers, spare tires, life jackets, and first aid kits, to name just a few things.
So with this in mind, here are five good reasons that you should WANT a high capacity magazine.

1. Multiple assailants. Whether on the street or during a home invasion, violent criminals often move in pairs or packs. Realize that you will never shoot as well as your score at the range when you are under the unbelievable stress of a life-or-death encounter. Which would you prefer to have in your magazine in such an event? Ten rounds? Or fifteen or seventeen? Or perhaps even 30?

2. Private citizens always face the threat before the police arrive. Private citizens were on the front line at Tucson, Columbine, and Virginia Tech. Why limit our effectiveness?
You should logically want whatever cops choose to carry. How many cops choose a ten round magazine? If politicians want to hinder us “little people” with a ten round limit, they should also hamper the police with the same limit. Let’s see how far that flies.
In nearly every instance it is not a cop on the “front line” of a violent situation. It is private citizens who must face the “lone gunman” until (and sometimes even after) the police arrive. See Dial 911 and Die. Is the life of a policeman more important than yours?

3. Civil disturbances. Watch the Reginald Denny beating video some time. Review the looting insanity of Hurricane Katrina. You’ve got a crazed mob of ten, twenty, or fifty people headed in your direction. Are ten rounds enough? Might you want fifteen, or seventeen, or even thirty?
Oh, and while you’re at it, perhaps bring from memory those Los Angeles Korean store owners standing guard on the roofs of their businesses with semi-auto AKs during the Rodney King riots. No one messed with those stores, did they?

4. Because it is your most fundamental right as guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution, and, more importantly, as given by G-d A-lmighty: the right to the righteous defense of yourself and the innocent. “Shall not be infringed” simply means what it says. When politicians infringe on magazine capacity, they infringe on the Second Amendment. You should want a high cap mag because you can have one!
This is America, not a socialist nanny state or tin pot Third World dictatorship. The saying “use it or lose it” is never so relevant as when applied to our Bill of Rights. See "2A Today for the USA"

5. Your assailants may well be armed with high cap magazines themselves. No ban will affect these criminals; it will actually encourage them. Do you really think the gang bangers care about federal laws? Again, ask the local cop why he or she won’t “downgrade” to a ten round mag to go along with this feel-good idiocy. Ask the pols why they don’t think the cops should do so.
These are just a few of the reasons for WANTING (not “needing”) a high cap magazine. In the spirit of JPFO’s recently launched “High Cap Freedom” campaign, go out and buy one or more high capacity mags for your pistol or rifle today.

Always remember, the present drive towards a ban might fail, but all it will take is “Loughner II” (another convenient “crazed lone gunman”) to drive the hysteria machine to victory for the gun grabbers. Get your high cap magazines before any ban can take place.

“Because your life is too precious to risk running out of bullets.
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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It could be extended to 30.... I was just throwing out a number. Obviously a study would be required to see where it falls.

Fine in terms of what? We're talking about whether 30-round magazines are required for self-defense. Frankly they aren't. Are they fine for owning? Sure.
Yes they are. if not why do police, swat, and the armed forces use them if they are not a great tool for self defense?
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