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I guess you just get to pick a random cut off time that fits you talking points. How about something a little more substantial
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware | Pew Social & Demographic Trends
National rates of gun homicide and other violent gun crimes are strikingly lower now than during their peak in the mid-1990s, paralleling a general decline in violent crime, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of government data. Beneath the long-term trend, though, are big differences by decade: Violence plunged through the 1990s, but has declined less dramatically since 2000.
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
The fact of the matter is, MOST gun owners BY FAR are peaceable, responsible, law-abiding citizens.
Beyond that, you can try to regulate things or outlaw this or that all you want, but you can't dis-create the gun. Someone who wants one will get one There's a massive black market for them.
I personally believe in the right to bear arms. As long as the military and police can have them, I feel average citizens should be able to as well.
This is not to say I am absolutely opposed to any and all regulations. People convicted of violent crimes, people with significant mental health issues, etc. I am not against background checks although part of the reason is I am not terribly worried that this will turn into a national database. If it appears to be going that way, I'd oppose it.
I guess you just get to pick a random cut off time that fits you talking points. How about something a little more substantial
Actually I tried to find the numbers for 2012. But I couldn't find any data for it. Thats why it was cut off at 2011. If anyone has reliable numbers for 2012, I't love to add it.
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Originally Posted by shooting4life
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware | Pew Social & Demographic Trends
National rates of gun homicide and other violent gun crimes are strikingly lower now than during their peak in the mid-1990s, paralleling a general decline in violent crime, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of government data. Beneath the long-term trend, though, are big differences by decade: Violence plunged through the 1990s, but has declined less dramatically since 2000.
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
Now that is an example of random cut off times that fits your talking points. Gun proponents love to talk about how the numbers of gun deaths have gone down since the peak. While ignoring the fact the numbers were skyrocketing for the preceding 15 years before that, due to lax gun regulations.
The numbers go up. The Numbers go down. Everybody puts their own spin on it. But the reality is, that gun violence is not getting any better in the long term. And if you think, with the every increasing numbers of bigger weapons easily available to homicidal maniacs, that the death rate is going to decrease, you are just burring your head in the sand. The numbers of mass killings are only going to go up, until we get some serious gun regulations in this country.
Actually I tried to find the numbers for 2012. But I couldn't find any data for it. Thats why it was cut off at 2011. If anyone has reliable numbers for 2012, I't love to add it.
Now that is an example of random cut off times that fits your talking points. Gun proponents love to talk about how the numbers of gun deaths have gone down since the peak. While ignoring the fact the numbers were skyrocketing for the preceding 15 years before that, due to lax gun regulations.
The numbers go up. The Numbers go down. Everybody puts their own spin on it. But the reality is, that gun violence is not getting any better in the long term. And if you think, with the every increasing numbers of bigger weapons available to homicidal maniacs, that the death rate is going to decrease, you are just burring your head in the sand. The numbers of mass killings are only going to go up, until we get some serious gun regulations in this country.
Actually gun violence is getting better in the long term.
Crime was high in the past because of drugs, not guns.
If all these "bigger weapons" caused crime the. Why hasn't crime increased?
What is a "bigger weapon" anyways?
How are you going to stop a mass murderer with gun laws?
This is exactly the kind of stupidity that causes sane people to laugh in the faces of ignorant anti-gun people.
The 1911 is probably one of the most popular handguns of all time, I own one built in 1937 and it still outperforms many of my modern handguns. There is nothing you can do to stop people from defending themselves, unless you ban the production of metal and make knowledge illegal people will always figure out a way to defend themselves and their rights against ignorant people like you.
If this is the case, and I'm sure your facts are quite accurate, why would you care if the ban I suggested was implemented? If old guns are as good as new guns, why produce anymore?
BTW, I'm not suggesting people stop defending themselves (although it might not be such a bad idea now that you mention it, at least how it's currently perceived) I'm suggesting we stop mass-producing firearms, bullets, gunpowder and all related paraphernalia for sale to the general public. Seems I was pretty clear about that
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This is a thinly disguised plan to abolish the 2nd Amendment and we are not buying it.
Well, I do think it's highly ambiguous, antiquated and in dire need of a third ratification. I'm pretty sure the people who originally penned it would understand its way overdue for modernization. They'd also probably be quite shocked at the reverent, almost sacred status those few words have obtained in modern culture. These same men understood the constitution wasn't designed to be a static, dogmatic way to govern a society.
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