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Old 09-10-2013, 03:36 PM
 
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None of that is from the law itself but rather someone person's interpretation based on them not specifically mentioning FDIC insured accounts. That is a giant stretch on both your part and theirs.
Because we know what happens when something is not specifically spelled out to politicians. Why would they not specifically exclude these deposits?
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Old 09-10-2013, 03:44 PM
 
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Citygroup had tons of assets that would have stopped any failure

Certain mortgage loans held-for-sale for Citigroup (C)
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Old 09-10-2013, 03:46 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Because we know what happens when something is not specifically spelled out to politicians. Why would they not specifically exclude these deposits?
Because It is in another part of the law, Did you want them just to repeat it so you can have a sound mind ????

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[[Page 124 STAT. 1540]]

SEC. 335. PERMANENT INCREASE IN DEPOSIT AND SHARE INSURANCE.

(a) Permanent Increase in Deposit Insurance.--Section 11(a)(1)(E) of
the Federal Deposit Insurance Act (12 U.S.C. 1821(a)(1)(E)) is amended--
(1) by striking ``$100,000'' and inserting ``$250,000''; and
(2) by adding at the end the following new sentences:
``Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the increase in
the standard maximum deposit insurance amount to $250,000 shall
apply to depositors in any institution for which the Corporation
was appointed as receiver or conservator on or after January 1,
2008, and before October 3, 2008. The Corporation shall take
such actions as are necessary to carry out the requirements of
this section with respect to such depositors, without regard to
any time limitations under this Act. In implementing this and
the preceding 2 sentences, any payment on a deposit claim made
by the Corporation as receiver or conservator to a depositor
above the standard maximum deposit insurance amount in effect at
the time of the appointment of the Corporation as receiver or
conservator shall be deemed to be part of the net amount due to
the depositor under subparagraph (B).''
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-11...111publ203.htm

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Old 09-10-2013, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I agree those were a lot better than the auto bailouts certainly. Strange liberal want on but see the other which are more risky as good.
Can you translate that into English?
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Old 09-10-2013, 03:56 PM
 
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Because It is in another part of the law, Did you want them just to repeat it so you can have a sound mind ?
So they will simply confiscate any amount above 250k as their own when they make bad investments.
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Old 09-10-2013, 04:00 PM
 
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The purpose was to save the banking system so we didn't have a repeat of October 1929 and the Great Depression. The fact that the government not only recovered all the money but earned a profit is a very good thing, regardless of conservative sour grapes crying.
No, the purpose was to save government from bailing out the tens of trillions of dollars in mortgage backed securities they guaranteed..
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Old 09-10-2013, 04:01 PM
 
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Government banks $15 billion on Citigroup bailout
Government banks $15 billion on Citigroup bailout - The Term Sheet: Fortune's deals blogTerm Sheet

Well, I guess it was a good idea after all. It kept the banking system from collapsing and then the government earns a profit.
Sure, finances tell the whole story. The problem is that its fiction.
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Old 09-10-2013, 04:03 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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So they will simply confiscate any amount above 250k as their own when they make bad investments.
Did you seriously not know how high FDIC insurance went before i posted that ?
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Old 09-10-2013, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Citigroup Was On The Verge Of Failure, New Report Finds; Rescue Was Based On 'Gut Instinct'
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Citygroup had tons of assets that would have stopped any failure

Certain mortgage loans held-for-sale for Citigroup (C)
What you pointed to is C8K statements about derivative instruments and the document says Citigroup has elected the fair-value option for those instruments.

The problem, of course, was that at the time there was no market for those instruments. That's why the government bought them -- to put money into the banking system that lacked assets and therefore couldn't lend. These were the toxic assets you may have heard about.
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Old 09-10-2013, 04:45 PM
 
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Did you seriously not know how high FDIC insurance went before i posted that ?
Yes, but a bank could not confiscate accounts to cover their losses before.
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