Can anti/pro global warming folks give a better explanation of a few things? (generations, radical)

[MTSilvertip]

Nomander,
I would really like to compliement you on your reasoned and well thought out posts on this thread.
Your writing style is clear and unambiguous, your arguments are concise and easy to follow.

It is a pleasure to read your responses.
The system won't let me rep you again, but please know that I for one really appreciate your efforts to answer the OP's question.

[carterstamp]

Originally Posted by TheHurricaneKid

Since on any given year, decade, or even century, the overall temperature (and other factors) can be an anomaly and departure from average by x standard deviations, at what point can you say that an anomaly is part of a more permanent departure from average or return to normalcy?

Since any given year can have below average, above average, or average quantities of something, how the **** can some of you people use a single event as evidence that the average is shifting or staying constant.

I'm not a climatologist, so I'm unqualified to answer you.

IMHO the climate is changing, and mankind did not cause it, but is speeding things up.

[T-310]

Originally Posted by Globe199

I heard that Jesus rode a Tyrannosaurus Rex onto the ark. There must have been a huge saddle on that thing!

And that makes as much sense as riding in a bucket in hurricane.

[T-310]

Originally Posted by TheHurricaneKid

There used to be a lot more Oxygen in the time of dinosaurs. There used to be plants in Antarctica. Where'd they go?

That was when the earth was super warm. There were no ice caps.

Stop bringing logic to LSD's. It makes their heads explode.

[TheHurricaneKid]

Originally Posted by carterstamp

I'm not a climatologist, so I'm unqualified to answer you.

IMHO the climate is changing, and mankind did not cause it, but is speeding things up.

"speeding thing up"

Does that mean the next ice age will be shorter?

[alphamale]

If the earth had had a constant climate over the last 100,000 years (a blink of the eye in terms of the earths age), and now we were experiencing a warming trend since industrialization, I would believe that we were causing a change.

The fact is, 12,000 years ago, most of Europe and North America were covered by a mile thick glacier.

Something started that glacier to recede.

My guess is that it wasn't man.

[TheHurricaneKid]

Originally Posted by T-310

That was when the earth was super warm. There were no ice caps.

Stop bringing logic to LSD's. It makes their heads explode.

The continents were arranged differently though. Could that be the difference?

[Neuling]

While some people seem to be dreaming of a world like when the dinosaurs live, one might ask what life would have been like for humans back then. Maybe it would have been way too warm and/or wet for our staple food plants.

While ice ages seem to recur in big cycles, the smaller ups and downs between the peaks are not at all regular. Thus it does matter if and how we influence them, especially since modern humans are just about 200k years old, which is like nothing.

[Globe199]

Originally Posted by alphamale

If the earth had had a constant climate over the last 100,000 years (a blink of the eye in terms of the earths age), and now we were experiencing a warming trend since industrialization, I would believe that we were causing a change.

The fact is, 12,000 years ago, most of Europe and North America were covered by a mile thick glacier.

Something started that glacier to recede.

My guess is that it wasn't man.

First off, it was never "most of Europe and North America." This is the extent of the ice sheet:



Second, it's still retreating.

[Seabass Inna Bun]

Originally Posted by T-310

The earth heats periodically and cools periodically. And the climate changes constantly.

All the rest is hype from the climate shriekers.

I'd ask what the natural driver in play at the moment is, but you don't know.