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Old 09-11-2013, 12:35 AM
 
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A few years ago a thought like this would never even come to mind, but with Snowden releasing all the 'atrocities' being committed by our government one can't help but to wonder how much involvement the US Gov't has in the role of Apple deciding to only make this very bare bones improvement to their next phone which is a fingerprint scanner to unlock your phone. I mean, we really can't rule anything out these days.

What do you all think? For a company as innovative as Apple one might expect them to had made just a bit more features besides a fingerprint scanner for the device the US govt loves to hack the most.
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Old 09-11-2013, 12:37 AM
 
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For those who want to see what I'm talking about, look at this piece of 'innovation' and allow your imagination to go free in regards to what the government might do with it.


CNET News - Apple demos Touch ID fingerprint reader for iPhone 5S - YouTube
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Old 09-11-2013, 12:44 AM
 
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With the new iPhone do any of you believe the US Govt will force Apple to give them iPhone users fingerprints?

No...
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Old 09-11-2013, 12:45 AM
 
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With the new iPhone do any of you believe the US Govt will force Apple to give them iPhone users fingerprints?

No...
Explain why you don't believe it or better yet why its not possible?
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Old 09-11-2013, 01:11 AM
 
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With the new iPhone do any of you believe the US Govt will force Apple to give them iPhone users fingerprints?

No...
Awesome answer.
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Old 09-11-2013, 01:15 AM
 
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I'm pretty sure the NSA wouldn't read the OP's conversations just to avoid the run on sentences. BMORE, did you bother looking up the tech communities assessment of the fingerprint scanner? What's that? No? Start there.
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Old 09-11-2013, 01:42 AM
 
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I'm pretty sure the NSA wouldn't read the OP's conversations just to avoid the run on sentences. BMORE, did you bother looking up the tech communities assessment of the fingerprint scanner? What's that? No? Start there.
Thank you for the compliment, I'm thrilled that you're suggesting that I've found a way for the NSA to avoid reading my conversations! You're absolutely correct in regards to not having read professional/tech assessments on this particular issue but nonetheless that's why I ask the question here, I'm pretty sure that's obvious though, right friend? Honestly, I could care less about what the tech community is saying about the technology but instead what are the limitations on the technology when involving the government.
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:07 AM
 
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What exactly do you think the government's gonna do with your fingerprints? They already have mine and so far I haven't suffered any because of it. They also have my social, should I be worried about that?
Why do they need to know so much? Why do they have to know every detail possible about everyone?
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:51 AM
 
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Why do they need to know so much? Why do they have to know every detail possible about everyone?
Well, they don't "know every possible detail about everyone", so it's irrelevant.

If the NSA wanted your fingerprints, DNA, and the like, they'd already have it. The truth is, they don't care about that sort of thing unless you're working for them, or under investigation. And if you're actually in the NSA's eye, then you're messing up hard.
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Old 09-11-2013, 04:16 AM
 
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Well, they don't "know every possible detail about everyone", so it's irrelevant.

If the NSA wanted your fingerprints, DNA, and the like, they'd already have it. The truth is, they don't care about that sort of thing unless you're working for them, or under investigation. And if you're actually in the NSA's eye, then you're messing up hard.
They want to know every possible detail....that cannot be disputed, otherwise they wouldn't have these MASSIVE databases. They wouldn't be collecting phone records..going 30 years back. They wouldn't have cars with hood cameras mapping out every square inch of terrain PLUS from satellite. They wouldn't put tracking devices in medical implants. They wouldn't have ALL web traffic SPLIT into a 1:1 stream that they can simply let collect in reservoirs like rainwater.

That's just for starters....


They have benign reasoning for all of the above....but here's the thing.

They aren't catching any "bad guys". They aren't "protecting" us. They are protecting them. The state. It always serves itself.
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