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Old 09-04-2013, 06:41 AM
 
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It seems to me that white society is not willing to take responsibility by acknowledging that many problems have resulted from actions that they have taken in the world. Here in America, their narrative is that over 300 years of racial oppression has nothing to do with many problems that are disproportionate in the African American community. There actions, if you are to believe it, produced no adverse reaction.

When I look at many of the problems in the world today, especially the Middle East and parts of Africa, most of those problems are rooted in one thing and that is BORDERS (which is related to resource allocation). Likely the biggest source of friction in the Middle East is Israel. Who created the modern Israel? It was created essentially from European colonial territories, who controlled the area as part of its empire. That single act has created much of the tensions in the Middle East, as well as, Arabs and Muslims trying to regain lost territories resulting from borders created by Europeans. Remember when Iraq invaded Kuwait...based upon border disputes? What peoples created those borders? How about the conflict between India and Pakistan and how that is related to colonial legacy?

In fact, one of the main reason for instability in many, if not most, parts of the world has to do with borders created by Europeans which grouped and divided peoples without respect to the history of those areas. Borders were drawn for the resource interest of European imperialist nations, as the carved up and divided the world like a pizza and would absorb the calories to make themselves fatter. The lack of homogeneity in these European created nations breed conflict and the Europeans often pitted and favored some tribes or groups over others, creating dissension and keeping the people from unifying and working against the colonizers who were exploiting the people, the land and its resources.

Yet, when these regions and or nations are discussed, they are looked down upon, frowned upon and seen as the origin of their own problems. In fact, much of their problems is the result of the legacy left by European imperialism, just like many of the problems in the African American community are the result of European Racism.

 
Old 09-04-2013, 06:45 AM
 
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It seems to me that white society is not willing to take responsibility by acknowledging that many problems have resulted from actions that they have taken in the world. Here in America, their narrative is that over 300 years of racial oppression has nothing to do with many problems that are disproportionate in the African American community. There actions, if you are to believe it, produced no adverse reaction.

When I look at many of the problems in the world today, especially the Middle East and parts of Africa, most of those problems are rooted in one thing and that is BORDERS (which is related to resource allocation). Likely the biggest source of friction in the Middle East is Israel. Who created the modern Israel? It was created essentially from European colonial territories, who controlled the area as part of its empire. That single act has created much of the tensions in the Middle East, as well as, Arabs and Muslims trying to regain lost territories resulting from borders created by Europeans. Remember when Iraq invaded Kuwait...based upon border disputes? What peoples created those borders? How about the conflict between India and Pakistan and how that is related to colonial legacy?

In fact, one of the main reason for instability in many, if not most, parts of the world has to do with borders created by Europeans which grouped and divided peoples without respect to the history of those areas. Borders were drawn for the resource interest of European imperialist nations, as the carved up and divided the world like a pizza and would absorb the calories to make themselves fatter. The lack of homogeneity in these European created nations breed conflict and the Europeans often pitted and favored some tribes or groups over others, creating dissension and keeping the people from unifying and working against the colonizers who were exploiting the people, the land and its resources.

Yet, when these regions and or nations are discussed, they are looked down upon, frowned upon and seen as the origin of their own problems. In fact, much of their problems is the result of the legacy left by European imperialism, just like many of the problems in the African American community are the result of European Racism.
Let me get this straight. When black people commit half the murders in the US it is not black peoples fault. But because some white people mistreated blacks hundreds of years ago it is all white peoples fault? Is that your brilliant pretzel logic?
 
Old 09-04-2013, 06:51 AM
 
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:53 AM
 
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It seems to me that white society is not willing to take responsibility by acknowledging that many problems have resulted from actions that they have taken in the world. Here in America, their narrative is that over 300 years of racial oppression has nothing to do with many problems that are disproportionate in the African American community. There actions, if you are to believe it, produced no adverse reaction.

When I look at many of the problems in the world today, especially the Middle East and parts of Africa, most of those problems are rooted in one thing and that is BORDERS (which is related to resource allocation). Likely the biggest source of friction in the Middle East is Israel. Who created the modern Israel? It was created essentially from European colonial territories, who controlled the area as part of its empire. That single act has created much of the tensions in the Middle East, as well as, Arabs and Muslims trying to regain lost territories resulting from borders created by Europeans. Remember when Iraq invaded Kuwait...based upon border disputes? What peoples created those borders? How about the conflict between India and Pakistan and how that is related to colonial legacy?

In fact, one of the main reason for instability in many, if not most, parts of the world has to do with borders created by Europeans which grouped and divided peoples without respect to the history of those areas. Borders were drawn for the resource interest of European imperialist nations, as the carved up and divided the world like a pizza and would absorb the calories to make themselves fatter. The lack of homogeneity in these European created nations breed conflict and the Europeans often pitted and favored some tribes or groups over others, creating dissension and keeping the people from unifying and working against the colonizers who were exploiting the people, the land and its resources.

Yet, when these regions and or nations are discussed, they are looked down upon, frowned upon and seen as the origin of their own problems. In fact, much of their problems is the result of the legacy left by European imperialism, just like many of the problems in the African American community are the result of European Racism.
LOL. This one takes the cake. WOW! How far are you going to reach to blame whitey. What a racist!
 
Old 09-04-2013, 06:58 AM
 
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Let me get this straight. When black people commit half the murders in the US it is not black peoples fault. But because some white people mistreated blacks hundreds of years ago it is all white peoples fault? Is that your brilliant pretzel logic?
He is like a superhero, except his magical power is the ability to read racism into any situation
 
Old 09-04-2013, 07:01 AM
 
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It seems to me that white society is not willing to take responsibility by acknowledging that many problems have resulted from actions that they have taken in the world. Here in America, their narrative is that over 300 years of racial oppression has nothing to do with many problems that are disproportionate in the African American community. There actions, if you are to believe it, produced no adverse reaction.

When I look at many of the problems in the world today, especially the Middle East and parts of Africa, most of those problems are rooted in one thing and that is BORDERS (which is related to resource allocation). Likely the biggest source of friction in the Middle East is Israel. Who created the modern Israel? It was created essentially from European colonial territories, who controlled the area as part of its empire. That single act has created much of the tensions in the Middle East, as well as, Arabs and Muslims trying to regain lost territories resulting from borders created by Europeans. Remember when Iraq invaded Kuwait...based upon border disputes? What peoples created those borders? How about the conflict between India and Pakistan and how that is related to colonial legacy?

In fact, one of the main reason for instability in many, if not most, parts of the world has to do with borders created by Europeans which grouped and divided peoples without respect to the history of those areas. Borders were drawn for the resource interest of European imperialist nations, as the carved up and divided the world like a pizza and would absorb the calories to make themselves fatter. The lack of homogeneity in these European created nations breed conflict and the Europeans often pitted and favored some tribes or groups over others, creating dissension and keeping the people from unifying and working against the colonizers who were exploiting the people, the land and its resources.

Yet, when these regions and or nations are discussed, they are looked down upon, frowned upon and seen as the origin of their own problems. In fact, much of their problems is the result of the legacy left by European imperialism, just like many of the problems in the African American community are the result of European Racism.

Hmmm....I think your internet history lessons are lacking. It's not like the Arabs/Muslims/North Africans don't have a long and storied history of conquest and empire themselves into and involving Europe, so what's that everyone likes to say, "turnabout is fair play?"


And hey, if the Ottoman Empire hadn't fought against the European allies and LOST in WW1, maybe they'd still be around as a global power. But they did. So they aren't.


Interestingly though, the fact that the Ottoman Empire successfully kept a very NON-HOMOGENOUS population and various branches of Islam under one umbrella without the consequences you speak of today.


Not saying that the Europeans haven't exacerbated already-existing problems, and Lord knows Israel is a major flashpoint... but frankly, most of the Middle Easts' development problems can simply trace back to religious fundamentalism, which is a cancer on human progress. Those areas that embrace otherwise have flourished.



Also, why do you assume that in a place like India and Pakistan, a "natural" carve up consensus would have emerged without much of the same conflict that persists today? There are few borders in this world that haven't been tested with blood, because people do not sit in neat little geographic areas, draw a line around their tribe and simply say, "Ok guys, this is mine! Stay out!"
 
Old 09-04-2013, 08:11 AM
 
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I promise to not create any more borders in the Middle East.
 
Old 09-04-2013, 08:16 AM
 
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He is like a superhero, except his magical power is the ability to read racism into any situation
it's said that the servant once invented 'racism' into the unequal representation of black jelly beans in a box of candy..
 
Old 09-04-2013, 08:16 AM
 
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Arabs are "white". Not all of us are pasty skin with light hair.
 
Old 09-04-2013, 08:17 AM
 
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It seems to me that white society is not willing to take responsibility by acknowledging that many problems have resulted from actions that they have taken in the world. Here in America, their narrative is that over 300 years of racial oppression has nothing to do with many problems that are disproportionate in the African American community. There actions, if you are to believe it, produced no adverse reaction.

When I look at many of the problems in the world today, especially the Middle East and parts of Africa, most of those problems are rooted in one thing and that is BORDERS (which is related to resource allocation). Likely the biggest source of friction in the Middle East is Israel. Who created the modern Israel? It was created essentially from European colonial territories, who controlled the area as part of its empire. That single act has created much of the tensions in the Middle East, as well as, Arabs and Muslims trying to regain lost territories resulting from borders created by Europeans. Remember when Iraq invaded Kuwait...based upon border disputes? What peoples created those borders? How about the conflict between India and Pakistan and how that is related to colonial legacy?

In fact, one of the main reason for instability in many, if not most, parts of the world has to do with borders created by Europeans which grouped and divided peoples without respect to the history of those areas. Borders were drawn for the resource interest of European imperialist nations, as the carved up and divided the world like a pizza and would absorb the calories to make themselves fatter. The lack of homogeneity in these European created nations breed conflict and the Europeans often pitted and favored some tribes or groups over others, creating dissension and keeping the people from unifying and working against the colonizers who were exploiting the people, the land and its resources.

Yet, when these regions and or nations are discussed, they are looked down upon, frowned upon and seen as the origin of their own problems. In fact, much of their problems is the result of the legacy left by European imperialism, just like many of the problems in the African American community are the result of European Racism.
When blacks start realizing, it's time to take the bull by the horn, and be responsible for self. When blacks take effective responsiblities for family, education and self, that is when things will start to change. When this country wises up and stops making it a law to hire a certain percentage of minorites, b/c it isn't working....
When blacks start to stop taking advantage of welfare....
stop commiting most of the crimes,
stop having babies upon babies at age 15.
When black women realize, they don't have to be married to be taken care of, and the importance of a child having both parents...and get out there and educate oneself, to be self sufficent....
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