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Old 09-13-2013, 03:54 PM
 
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Why should we compromise? Why not just enforce the laws on the books? Why not just remove the incentives for them to remain here and continue to come here such as jobs, benefits and birthright citizenship? Let's not blame Reagan for the Democratically controlled congress that failed to secure the border as promised. Reagan lived to regret signing that amnesty after that.

By the way, they aren't teabaggers but teapartiers and I am glad they don't any amnesty either. Amnesty will not "fix" the situation. It will only make things worse and for the future also.
Why blame Reagan and why compromise? You're contradicting yourself. Reagan gave amnesty and yet you don't want to compromise on that. That makes a lot of sense.

Securing the border will never happen. It's a waste of money. We've been securing the border and spending how many billions a year to stop the flow of drugs for how many decades now? How is that going?

Why compromise? It's the only way anything will get changed. Don't want to do it? Then stop whining and be happy with the way things are. Ask you wife, kids, boss, coworkers, etc, how successful you are without compromise. It's how the Freshman class got things done in the 90's.

No, they're teabaggers. Overall, they offer no real solutions, they whine about government programs even though a lot of them use government programs and they make conservatism look like a joke. They're what's wrong with Republican Party and why we got owned in the last election.
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Old 09-13-2013, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Why blame Reagan and why compromise? You're contradicting yourself. Reagan gave amnesty and yet you don't want to compromise on that. That makes a lot of sense.

Securing the border will never happen. It's a waste of money. We've been securing the border and spending how many billions a year to stop the flow of drugs for how many decades now? How is that going?

Why compromise? It's the only way anything will get changed. Don't want to do it? Then stop whining and be happy with the way things are. Ask you wife, kids, boss, coworkers, etc, how successful you are without compromise. It's how the Freshman class got things done in the 90's.

No, they're teabaggers. Overall, they offer no real solutions, they whine about government programs even though a lot of them use government programs and they make conservatism look like a joke. They're what's wrong with Republican Party and why we got owned in the last election.
The GOP only uses the immigration issue to stir up support.

Just like the Democrats use the abortion issue.

Neither party cares about the average American.
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Old 09-13-2013, 04:12 PM
 
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Why blame Reagan and why compromise? You're contradicting yourself. Reagan gave amnesty and yet you don't want to compromise on that. That makes a lot of sense.

Securing the border will never happen. It's a waste of money. We've been securing the border and spending how many billions a year to stop the flow of drugs for how many decades now? How is that going?

Why compromise? It's the only way anything will get changed. Don't want to do it? Then stop whining and be happy with the way things are. Ask you wife, kids, boss, coworkers, etc, how successful you are without compromise. It's how the Freshman class got things done in the 90's.

No, they're teabaggers. Overall, they offer no real solutions, they whine about government programs even though a lot of them use government programs and they make conservatism look like a joke. They're what's wrong with Republican Party and why we got owned in the last election.
IMO, Reagan made a mistake signing that amnesty. He realized it when the border wasn't secured. This is no longer 1986 and now we have at least quadruple the number of illegals here today with 23 million Americans out of work so the circumstances are much worse today. How can I compromise on something that happened so long ago? Where is the contradiction? You're the one not making any sense. Compromise is not the solution for the American people. Amnesty just encourages more to come here just like the one in 1986 did. Whining? Now you're being uncivil. I am offering a solution to the problem and you call it "whining"?

As I said, the solution is to remove all the incentives for them to remain here or continue to come here. No one expects that illegal immigration will stop 100% but with the above there will be far fewer of them coming here. Now you change the subject to the drug dealers?

NO, they aren't teabaggers. Teabagging is a derogatory word for gay men. They are members of the Teaparty aka teapartiers. Get the terminology straight, will you? Why are YOU "whining" about the Teaparty? Are they the only ones involved in this issue? No, we lost the last election because Romney wasn't a viable candidate. The Teapartiers are only a small group of Americans. You are putting blame where blame doesn't belong. The Teaparty stands for fiscal responsibility. That's a joke?
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Old 09-13-2013, 04:21 PM
 
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Well, yeah.

But of course we are talking about the same people who fund the PACs and arrange campaign fund-raisers for their personal politicians. If the money people didn't want the Governor signing this legislation, it wouldn't have happened.

Got to maintain that status quo.
Not to mention that the Democrats are groveling for the Hispanic vote as usual. Giving illegals DL's is just another carrot to keep them on the Democrat plantation.
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Old 09-13-2013, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Is Gov. Brown going to throw in a free car? After all, he is giving the POOR illegals drivers licenses.
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:23 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Immigrants? They aren't "immigrants" they are illegal aliens. Illegal aliens are not and should not be a part of our communities.


A tourist in this nation, is not permitted to work and take jobs from the American citizens.
When they do that, they are illegal aliens and no longer just tourists.
The laws made in 1986 are still the laws on the books and the Federal government dictates immigration and their laws on the books. Not enforcing those laws is also a crime.
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Old 09-13-2013, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The word illegal only has meaning when the American people do something illegal... then we have to pay!!
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Old 09-13-2013, 06:13 PM
 
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California governor to sign driver's license bill for illegal immigrants

I'm ashamed of Gov Brown for doing this. Even worse was when Gov Brown said that they no longer need to fear being stopped when "on their way to work". Why should an illegal have a "right to work" in our state?
How long before a illegal sues for citizenship because of this. How can someone be illegal but have legal drivers license goverment issued. Its a implyed citizenship unless the drivers license is stamped with illegal over it.
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Old 09-13-2013, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Florida
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How long before a illegal sues for citizenship because of this. How can someone be illegal but have legal drivers license goverment issued. Its a implyed citizenship unless the drivers license is stamped with illegal over it.
Brown is a democrat..
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Old 09-13-2013, 06:44 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Not to mention that the Democrats are groveling for the Hispanic vote as usual. Giving illegals DL's is just another carrot to keep them on the Democrat plantation.

Yes they sure as hell are, anyone can figure that out. And the gosh damn democrats controlling this State, really love Fudging it up. Fudgin Brown and his idiot voters who voted the clown in again. Thanks a lot idiots.

Some people are so dang ingorant. The majority of people i associate with, are hard working Moms and Dads who are middle class, trying just to stay afloat these days, and buying just the essentials

Since Obama has fudged up our economy not once but twice, people are having a very hard time of it a second time go round..

Not all people in the State of Calif are living lavish lifestyles, believe that? The Democrats are groveling for a awful lot these days, to bad they don't beleive in the concept of being sincere and honest. Not deceitful.

Looks as though Putin has Obama groveling too?.
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