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You need to brush up on your American history. Police officers, judges and the like committed (and still commit) horrible offenses against black people.
"In 2012, almost half the Houstonians arrested during traffic stops were African-Americans, though they make up less than a quarter of the city’s population. Houston Police Department statistics show that white drivers are more likely than black drivers to be carrying contraband, but according to HPD’s annual report on racial profiling—which concludes, “The analysis provides no evidence that officers of the Houston Police Department engage in racial profiling”—officers performed “consent searches” on black drivers in 2012 more than four times as often as on white drivers. A consent search is specifically one made without probable cause."
"In 2012, almost half the Houstonians arrested during traffic stops were African-Americans, though they make up less than a quarter of the city’s population. Houston Police Department statistics show that white drivers are more likely than black drivers to be carrying contraband, but according to HPD’s annual report on racial profiling—which concludes, “The analysis provides no evidence that officers of the Houston Police Department engage in racial profiling”—officers performed “consent searches” on black drivers in 2012 more than four times as often as on white drivers. A consent search is specifically one made without probable cause."
“These findings demonstrate clear and significant racial disparities in the way in which motorists are treated once they have been stopped by law enforcement. The report found that blacks and Hispanics were roughly three times as likely to be searched during a traffic stop, blacks were twice as likely to be arrested and blacks were nearly four times as likely to experience the threat or use of force during interactions with the police."
You've gotta know your history and why black people don't trust the Police.
Police used to routinely beat up blacks, harass, intimidate, etc.
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Originally Posted by ChocLot
You need to brush up on your American history. Police officers, judges and the like committed (and still commit) horrible offenses against black people.
And that's why blacks SHOULD RISE ABOVE IT, rather than giving cops reason to treat you like crap. Blacks continually say they hate how they're treated by cops, but then why do you continually give cops a reason to do so?
How about this? What if blacks started committing less crime and also respected cops and treated them even half decently in normal interactions for the next 5-10 years? Do you honestly think that cops' attitudes and how they deal with blacks wouldn't change AT ALL? That no matter how nicely blacks act towards cops that police would still have it in for them and still treat them like crap? I seriously doubt that.
It took decades of bad behavior for people to see blacks and thugs and criminals and it will take many years if not decades of good behavior to undo those perceptions. So instead of collectively crying about how you're treated, how about collectively doing something to change how people think about you?
And that's why blacks SHOULD RISE ABOVE IT, rather than giving cops reason to treat you like crap. Blacks continually say they hate how they're treated by cops, but then why do you continually give cops a reason to do so?
How about this? What if blacks started committing less crime and also respected cops and treated them even half decently in normal interactions for the next 5-10 years? Do you honestly think that cops' attitudes and how they deal with blacks wouldn't change AT ALL? That no matter how nicely blacks act towards cops that police would still have it in for them and still treat them like crap? I seriously doubt that.
It took decades of bad behavior for people to see blacks and thugs and criminals and it will take many years if not decades of good behavior to undo those perceptions. So instead of collectively crying about how you're treated, how about collectively doing something to change how people think about you?
Please just stop right now. Your clearly showing your having thought critically about the issue. Let's stop pointing fingers at races.
An unarmed man was gunned down and your still trying to point the finger at the black race. Pitiful.
And that's why blacks SHOULD RISE ABOVE IT, rather than giving cops reason to treat you like crap. Blacks continually say they hate how they're treated by cops, but then why do you continually give cops a reason to do so?
How about this? What if blacks started committing less crime and also respected cops and treated them even half decently in normal interactions for the next 5-10 years? Do you honestly think that cops' attitudes and how they deal with blacks wouldn't change AT ALL? That no matter how nicely blacks act towards cops that police would still have it in for them and still treat them like crap? I seriously doubt that.
It took decades of bad behavior for people to see blacks and thugs and criminals and it will take many years if not decades of good behavior to undo those perceptions. So instead of collectively crying about how you're treated, how about collectively doing something to change how people think about you?
Huh? You have to be kidding right? This has to be a joke post.
You do know that cops have mistreated black people since the beginning right?
You don't mistreat all people of the same race just because of few of them are criminals. You do know that right? As a public servant cops should also be aware of this and not let their biases get in the way of performing their duties.
If took decades of bad behavior? What? Like I said cops have been mistreating black people since the beginning regardless of "our" preconceived behavior.
It's still amazing that people still blame black people for the historically poor behavior and of law enforcement.
And that's why blacks SHOULD RISE ABOVE IT, rather than giving cops reason to treat you like crap. Blacks continually say they hate how they're treated by cops, but then why do you continually give cops a reason to do so?
How about this? What if blacks started committing less crime and also respected cops and treated them even half decently in normal interactions for the next 5-10 years? Do you honestly think that cops' attitudes and how they deal with blacks wouldn't change AT ALL? That no matter how nicely blacks act towards cops that police would still have it in for them and still treat them like crap? I seriously doubt that.
It took decades of bad behavior for people to see blacks and thugs and criminals and it will take many years if not decades of good behavior to undo those perceptions. So instead of collectively crying about how you're treated, how about collectively doing something to change how people think about you?
So, are you saying that blacks are arrested mostly for insubordination? If not, what is your proof that we don't treat the police decently when we are stopped?
I don't mean this with any disrespect, but you really are clueless. You have no idea what's it like to be stopped and immediately get nervous and hope that there are folks around to witness the interaction. To be afraid to pull over for them at night. To have anxiety that they might ask you to step from the car. To be afraid to question their actions for fear that you'll be seen as belligerent and arrested on a trumped out charge of creating a public disturbance. To feeling like you have to consent to a police search, for fear of looking guilty otherwise.
A very small percentage of black people commit crimes. If you judge the 98% of us who don't by the 2% that do, that's your problem.
I read he was disoriented from the crash, if you ever been in a traumatic situation you're pretty much all over the place.was a taser/stun gun unavailable ? Irony, survive a near fatal crash only to be killed by police as you ask for help
no, one was used.
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Two other officers on the scene did not fire their weapons. Officer Thornell Little tried to subdue Ferrell with a Taser before 12 shots were fired, 10 of which struck Ferrell, police said.
And that's why blacks SHOULD RISE ABOVE IT, rather than giving cops reason to treat you like crap. Blacks continually say they hate how they're treated by cops, but then why do you continually give cops a reason to do so?
How about this? What if blacks started committing less crime and also respected cops and treated them even half decently in normal interactions for the next 5-10 years? Do you honestly think that cops' attitudes and how they deal with blacks wouldn't change AT ALL? That no matter how nicely blacks act towards cops that police would still have it in for them and still treat them like crap? I seriously doubt that.
It took decades of bad behavior for people to see blacks and thugs and criminals and it will take many years if not decades of good behavior to undo those perceptions. So instead of collectively crying about how you're treated, how about collectively doing something to change how people think about you?
Could you please shut up about something you are so ignorant off it's pathetic.
Your post is so full of b.s. that it's insulting.
Yes. I'm Black and grew up in the ghetto and have seen first hand the dynamics Black people go through with Law Enforcement simply due to the color of their skin.
Yes, some Blacks are disrepectful of the police, some have a legitimate reason and some don't, however as someone who will never be viewed by the police the same way that a Black person would, your arrogance is astounding.
And that's why blacks SHOULD RISE ABOVE IT, rather than giving cops reason to treat you like crap. Blacks continually say they hate how they're treated by cops, but then why do you continually give cops a reason to do so?
How about this? What if blacks started committing less crime and also respected cops and treated them even half decently in normal interactions for the next 5-10 years? Do you honestly think that cops' attitudes and how they deal with blacks wouldn't change AT ALL? That no matter how nicely blacks act towards cops that police would still have it in for them and still treat them like crap? I seriously doubt that.
It took decades of bad behavior for people to see blacks and thugs and criminals and it will take many years if not decades of good behavior to undo those perceptions. So instead of collectively crying about how you're treated, how about collectively doing something to change how people think about you?
This guy must be smoking something.
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Originally Posted by ChocLot
So, are you saying that blacks are arrested mostly for insubordination? If not, what is your proof that we don't treat the police decently when we are stopped?
I don't mean this with any disrespect, but you really are clueless. You have no idea what's it like to be stopped and immediately get nervous and hope that there are folks around to witness the interaction. To be afraid to pull over for them at night. To have anxiety that they might ask you to step from the car. To be afraid to question their actions for fear that you'll be seen as belligerent and arrested on a trumped out charge of creating a public disturbance. To feeling like you have to consent to a police search, for fear of looking guilty otherwise.
A very small percentage of black people commit crimes. If you judge the 98% of us who don't by the 2% that do, that's your problem.
This is so true. I also will add that many times I hesitate in even calling the police due to me not wanting to deal with them and automatically assume that I or my husband are the ones who are to be under suspicion.
The way I advise all black people to deal with it is to be educated on our rights as American citizens, refuse to be searched or have cars searched, obtain the name of officers and their supervisor's name, and file complaints as needed. That is the only way that we will stop being profiled and harassed by police.
And FWIW, it would make much more sense for police to stop white people more often since they perform DUI more often than blacks and also are drug users at a higher rate than black people. Most of the black people they stop are arrested for these or some other trumped up charge, which like PPs said is associated with "insubordination" or "teaching so and so a lesson." My husband has been arrested for these before and now always files a complaint. He is mouthy, but he is right in the fact that as a 40 year old man, he should not be stopped and harassed and questioned as much as he is since he has never been convicted of any crime and all the arrest are usually described as "disorderly conduct" which means he told them something they didn't want to hear. So we have to waste time and money dealing with them and going to court only to have these charges thrown out, then more time to file complaints on officers.
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