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Old 09-24-2013, 12:41 PM
 
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BS, name one. I bet there's 1000 stories like this for every positive gun story.
I could go on posting stories like this all day..... there are literally 1000's of them.


77-year-old man defends home from burglar, The Missoulian, Missoula, Mont. 09/16/13

A man approached the home of a 77-year-old man in Missoula, Mont. and threw a chair through a window to gain access to the house. Upon becoming aware of the intruder, the homeowner retrieved a gun and fired at the burglar, striking him once. Once authorities arrived, the wounded man was taken to a local hospital where he is expected to survive. Missoula Detective Sgt. Scott Pastian noted that police suspect drugs may have been a factor in the attempted burglary.

Pharmacist protects himself and employee from machete-wielding robber, KATV, Little Rock, Ark. 09/05/13

Owner Andy Blansett and employee Melanie Miller were working at the Medicine Shoppe pharmacy in North Little Rock, Ark. when a man came in and demanded painkillers. The man then drew a machete, intimidated Miller and attempted to climb over the pharmacy’s counter. In response, Blansett retrieved a .45-caliber pistol and pointed it at the thief, causing him to flee. Drug thieves beware, in an interview with a local media outlet Blansett noted, “All of the independently owned pharmacists I know carry a concealed [weapon] on them or have one in the store.”

Pregnant woman scares off burglars, KGBT, Harlingen, Texas 09/09/13

A pregnant woman was inside her home in Palmview, Texas when a pair of burglars approached the house. One thief went to the front door and rang the doorbell, while the other moved to a back door. After spotting the burglars, the homeowner retrieved a handgun and the telephone, and called the police. Eventually the woman fired at the intruders, causing them to flee. The thieves were captured a short time later after police cornered them in a nearby home. Following the incident, the homeowner told a reporter that she had initially been against her husband purchasing the handgun she used to defend herself, but noted that after the shooting she told him, “thank you for doing that.”

Armed driver stops carjackers, WECT, Wilmington, N.C.09/05/13

A man was driving his truck with the windows down through Wilmington, N.C. when a pair of robbers approached him while the vehicle was stopped. One of the thieves grabbed the driver’s arm, pointed a gun at him and said, “Give me your truck.” The driver responded by retrieving a pistol and pointing it at the carjackers, causing them to flee.

Armed homeowner ends wild crime spree, KCTV, Kansas City, Mo. 09/05/13

A man was at home asleep with his wife and child in their Kansas City, Mo. home when the family was awakened by a suspicious noise. The man retrieved a shotgun, went to investigate, and discovered a burglar who had broken into the home’s garage. The homeowner fired at the intruder, killing him. The shooting ended a lengthy crime spree perpetrated by the burglar that included the theft of three cars, one by a carjacking at gunpoint, and another burglary.

Pizza deliveryman thwarts attempted robbery, Space Coast Daily, Brevard County, Fla. 08/24/13

A pizza deliveryman was getting into his car following a delivery to a motel in West Melbourne, Fla. when a man armed with a knife confronted him and demanded cash. The delivery driver responded by retrieving a gun and firing at the criminal, killing him. An investigation revealed that the deceased criminal had a criminal record that included aggravated battery, armed robbery, and false imprisonment. Following the incident, Brevard County Sheriff Wayne Ivy noted, “Preliminary evidence in the case demonstrates that the intended victim of the robbery acted in self-defense while being robbed by a violent criminal who was armed with a knife.”

Elderly man protects himself and wife from escaped inmate, The Des Moines Register, Des Moines, Iowa 08/20/13

Jerome and Carolyn Mauderly were asleep at home in Bedford, Iowa when an armed criminal broke into their house and held the elderly couple hostage. The criminal was Rodney Eugene Long, a convicted felon and escaped inmate from the nearby Clarinda Correctional Facility, who police believe shot a Taylor County Sheriff’s Deputy a day earlier, and who was the subject of an extensive manhunt. After being held captive for four hours, Jerome took an opportunity to retrieve a shotgun kept in the home. After getting hold of the shotgun, Jerome shot and killed Long. As an escaped prisoner, Long made a terrible choice of victims; Jerome Mauderly is a retired prison guard. However, Long might not have had much luck choosing another household to victimize in Bedford, as a pair of waitresses interviewed at the local Junction Café during the manhunt explained to a reporter that their loved ones were aware of the fugitive, armed, and prepared for the worst.

Wife protects husband from robbers at restaurant, KPRC, Houston, Texas 08/08/13

A woman and her family were dining at a Denny’s in Houston, Texas when a group of six men armed with guns attempted to rob her husband while she was in the restroom. When the woman exited the restroom and spotted the hold-up, she drew a pistol and exchanged gunfire with the criminals, causing them to flee. Following the incident, a local media outlet spoke with the victim’s brother who noted that his brother’s wife is a Right-to-Carry permit holder. The brother went on to add, “Self-defense saved my brother’s life.”

 
Old 09-24-2013, 02:34 PM
 
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Guns make weak, immoral people dangerous. The 2nd amendment is just a rough idea of how to handle guns written too long ago. We can interpret it as we see fit.
 
Old 09-24-2013, 02:50 PM
 
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Guns make weak, immoral people dangerous. The 2nd amendment is just a rough idea of how to handle guns written too long ago. We can interpret it as we see fit.
Actually, guns can help weak people protect themselves from the immoral and dangerous people.

A 65-year-old woman can not combat two thugs breaking into her home with just her hands. A 65-year-old woman can combat two thugs breaking into her home with a gun.

However, the Second Amendment has nothing to do with that. The Second Amendment is about giving the citizens a way to defend themselves against the government. All it takes is a bit or reading to gain this knowledge.
 
Old 09-24-2013, 02:50 PM
 
Location: PA
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The only true way freedoms are gone is by laws. Laws created by government. You must first assume the laws that protect your individual rights and freedoms are protected under the law of the land. (Constitution) but you soon find the constitution is no longer the law of the land and new laws supersede the rights though thought the government once protected. Society will ignore the first natural rights for the new laws promising convenience, safety and "trusted" police state actions. It is not fear of losing guns, its the right to protect your life that is of great concern. I am still waiting to see the police state laws and removal of individual rights ever protecting anyone or saving lives. Guns in the hands of standing armies only protects the lives of tyrants. Unarmed people are the biggest security LOST in a nation of people only looking to protect their life and liberty.
 
Old 09-24-2013, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Guns make weak, immoral people dangerous. The 2nd amendment is just a rough idea of how to handle guns written too long ago. We can interpret it as we see fit.
Pens and keyboards make weak, unintelligent people share their stupidity. The 1st amendment is just a rough idea of how to handle free speech written too long ago. We can interpret it as we see fit.

Your sentence and mine make the same amount of sense: zero. If we decide that the 2nd Amendment needs to be interpreted differently from the way it has been interpreted for the last 200+ years, then we need to throw out the entire Bill of Rights. There is only one way to change the fact that the 2nd Amendment protects our right to keep and bear arms. That way is to repeal the 2nd Amendment. Start a movement or organization, contact your Senator or Representative, and get going on the process. I highly doubt that you'll get the 2/3 majority in both houses which you'll need to put it up for ratification, and I'm almost positive that you won't get the 3/4 state majority for ratification, but if you can do it I'll abide by the repeal.

The problem for you and others like you, in a nutshell, is that you are not in the majority when it comes to restricting 2nd Amendment rights. If you were, the 2nd Amendment would have been repealed by now - or at least there would be a serious effort to repeal it in progress. Since you know that there is absolutely no way you can get rid of the 2nd Amendment, you support anyone who is willing to sidestep the Bill of Rights as long as they are sidestepping it to do something which you want done, i.e. gun control. It's perfectly fine, in your view, to ignore the Constitution as long as it suits your purposes. It really is rather pathetic, when you think about it. You are so convinced, despite all evidence to the contrary, that the key to stopping crime is removing the tools that criminals use that you are willing to endorse even greater criminal activity in order to get your way.
 
Old 09-24-2013, 03:18 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Guns make weak, immoral people dangerous. The 2nd amendment is just a rough idea of how to handle guns written too long ago. We can interpret it as we see fit.
Constitution fail.
 
Old 09-24-2013, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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A family argument in Brooklyn Park, MN resulted in a murder-suicide. A father and son got in a fight like fathers and sons will do. Son shot the father and then himself. Another typical great gun story you won't see in your NRA magazine.
Why would we? that is not news, and it was a criminal act....
 
Old 09-24-2013, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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BS, name one. I bet there's 1000 stories like this for every positive gun story.
yeah because bad news has a better rating margin.



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Old 09-24-2013, 05:29 PM
 
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Guns make weak, immoral people dangerous. The 2nd amendment is just a rough idea of how to handle guns written too long ago. We can interpret it as we see fit.
We gun owners agree to that. Any PC moron with a gun is damned dangerous and a fact more than proven. The PC are the problem. The PC is the epitome of insanity and immorality! You are 100% correct on that score, but somehow I don't think that is what you meant to say!

The rest on the 2nd is just plain wrong, but we expect the PC to be wrong always.
 
Old 09-24-2013, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Guns make weak, immoral people dangerous. The 2nd amendment is just a rough idea of how to handle guns written too long ago. We can interpret it as we see fit.
no, they were always dangerous. I am sorry if you fail to that and the fact that guns make weak, morally strong people strong and put them on the same leave as 5 gang members or a 120 LBS model strong and more powerful then a 320LBS rapist.

"too long ago" human nature never changes, liberty is never meant to stagnate or contract but expend.
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