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They're called grants, and they are already in place.
No, the law is in place, the funding for them dont take place until the year the expenses are incurred
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"Many key ACA initiatives are funded through mandatory spending that does not require further Congressional approval. Appendix 1 In total, the ACA included $101.25 billion in mandatory spending from fiscal years 2010 through 2019.ii By the end of fiscal year 2011, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) had awarded nearly $3.6 billion in grants under the ACA.iii Most grant programs under the ACA have been funded through mandatory spending."
The fact that they are mandatory spending, doesnt mean the $101B has already been allocated..
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Well, gee, let me see, genius. The GOP is telling the Democrats they will fund everything else if, and only if, they rescind the mandatory funding that is already in place. But you knew that.
There is no $100B sitting around in a pot somewhere because it hasnt been borrowed. Once again, the fact that the law dictates that they borrow it, doesnt mean the money has already been borrowed.
Funding may also be affected by the sequestration process under the Budget Control Act of 2011, which was triggered by the failure of the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction (also known as the “super committee”) to agree on a plan to decrease the federal deficit. The sequestration process aims to reduce the deficit by $1.2 trillion by cutting funding for certain domestic programs and defense spending from 2013 to 2021.ix The resulting cuts to non-defense spending will likely reduce funding for ACA programs. While ACA-funded initiatives are designed to influence the future delivery of health care, the size and nature of future ACA-funded programs remains uncertain.
YOUR OWN LINK says it hasnt been allocated.
Appropriated funding was ONLY until September 30th, the current fiscal year..
Again conservative insanity on this issue is there for anyone to see.
conservatives in Congress agree that the government should be funded. Democrats in Congress agree that the government should be funded. President Obama agrees that the government should be funded.
There is no disagreement over the funding of the government.
Yet conservatives seem to perceive that voting to fund the government is a concession to Democrats, it is not.
So again, can someone anyone tell me what is the conservative concession to the Democratic party that they should accept conservatives changing the health care law or anything else one bit?
Cool -- then we don't need the debt ceiling raised at all.
In fact if Obamacare were run as well as private insurance, then it will make so much money that the debt can be paid down.
The sequester really doesn't cut spending - what it does is cut future increases in spending. Don't forget the US credit rating was threatened with a downgrade prior to the sequester because of it's over indebtedness and continuing to pile on more debt - hence the reason behind the sequester.
If the whole thing will burn down because we can't exist on a slightly-reduced budget - what does that tell you about the health of the economy?
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Our government is intended to work for all people (conservative, libertarian, liberal, gay, straight, of all religions, creeds, national origins, old, young, from Nome to Key West), not as a way for one group to control it and force us all into their way of thinking.
They're called grants, and they are already in place.
"Many key ACA initiatives are funded through mandatory spending that does not require further Congressional approval. Appendix 1 In total, the ACA included $101.25 billion in mandatory spending from fiscal years 2010 through 2019.ii By the end of fiscal year 2011, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) had awarded nearly $3.6 billion in grants under the ACA.iii Most grant programs under the ACA have been funded through mandatory spending."
Well, gee, let me see, genius. The GOP is telling the Democrats they will fund everything else if, and only if, they rescind the mandatory funding that is already in place. But you knew that.
You appear to be saying the amt they estimated was needed has been put in place.
The reality is they are projecting cost. A startup of this magnitude will only be known after the fact.
Because impact on human beings (i.e., what I was referring to) evidently has no value in your mind, or at least far less value than money, especially when those adversely affected are others.
Don't cry about what goes with the territory.
In the public sector we do what we have to when situations dictate.
Yes, us out here-real people without asking for crocodile tears for our hardship.
It's called life which is not the artificial utopia that lives in your imagination.
Nothing on Obama making his success claims I see.
How convenient for you.
Wrong, Obamacare is already funded. The Republicans are going to shut down the government if Democrats don't defund it. This shutdown belongs wholly and completely to the GOP.
Maybe Cruz could get up on the Senate floor and read "How The Grinch Stole Christmas" next, while gleefully pointing to the 2.1 million federal workers who will soon be without a paycheck. I'm sure it warms Republicans' hearts to cause more misery to hard-working Americans simply because they can't get a do-over.
In God's Green Earth why do you think OC is good for any one. It should be defunded and we as a country need to start over. This is a Job Killer! All studies point to this and we will no longer have 40 hour weeks and where is that going to lead us?
To Ruin!
The long term cost and the usage of Death Panels should scare any right thinking citizen!
Dem's and the Liberals is like the Captain on the Titanic. There is no Iceberg.
Once upon a time, if Republicans or Democrats didn't like certain laws or policies, they actually went to the trouble of winning elections that garnered sufficient control of the House, Senate, and White House to move forward with an agenda through the legislative process. That was the intent of the Constitution.
Now, since that hasn't worked out for them, supposedly Constitution-loving Republicans have decided to toss all that out the window and just use what hold they have in the House to conduct plain and simple economic terrorism.
We can't get what we want through legislation? Fine, we'll shut down the government, slash the credit rating, and screw over the economy.
It's disgusting, and no decent, Constitution-loving person should stand for this, regardless of their personal opinion of Obamacare.
When the government shuts down in a few days and bills/benefits already owed stop being paid; the nation's credit rating gets downgraded and interest on foreign debt shoots up; and your IRA/401K takes a hefty hit...remember come next election that you have the Republicans to thank for this. They will own 100% of it.
The rest of us sane members of the United States should not negotiate with terrorists.
Dems changed rules to get Obamacare in where are your complaints about that?
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