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Old 09-20-2013, 05:08 PM
 
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Republican's cite that they can't even trust the President to even work towards the bill... I can't blame them... I wouldn't trust him either...

Republicans depart House immigration group
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:16 PM
 
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Republican's cite that they can't even trust the President to even work towards the bill... I can't blame them... I wouldn't trust him either...

Republicans depart House immigration group
Like most of their so-called efforts at compromise, the bipartisan committee was all for show for the Republicans anyway. From your link:

"House Republican leaders already had made clear they planned to proceed with a step-by-step approach, not with a single big bill like Johnson and Carter's group had working on or like the Senate passed in June."

More pretend indignation from the right about the collapse of a group whose findings they had no intention of paying any attention to anyway. Doesn't all that phony outrage get exhausting after a while?
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Like most of their so-called efforts at compromise, the bipartisan committee was all for show for the Republicans anyway. From your link:

"House Republican leaders already had made clear they planned to proceed with a step-by-step approach, not with a single big bill like Johnson and Carter's group had working on or like the Senate passed in June."

More pretend indignation from the right about the collapse of a group whose findings they had no intention of paying any attention to anyway. Doesn't all that phony outrage get exhausting after a while?
The bill passed by the senate is a porksters dream come true that does little to address what is actually broken in the system. It is a bad bill......
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:20 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Compromising the US Constitution, is becoming a lost art.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:23 PM
 
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The bill passed by the senate is a porksters dream come true that does little to address what is actually broken in the system. It is a bad bill......
Which has nothing to do with the premise of this thread, which was based on phony outrage over a committee that the GOP had already dismissed as irrelevant. Just another reason to start a thread to slam the president.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Which has nothing to do with the premise of this thread, which was based on phony outrage over a committee that the GOP had already dismissed as irrelevant. Just another reason to start a thread to slam the president.
I disagree. As demonstrated Obama does pick and chose laws he is willing to enforce when it comes to immigration. He does it now, why would anyone expect this to change?
I for 1 am for a step by step process rather than a large pork blunder. Requiring 100% E-verify is a good start.
Streamline the process would be another.
Make it impossible or at least very difficult to live here and as we have seen in states that crack down, illegals will self deport.
How can you trust the word of a man who parades a chemical engineer on stage and represents her as the average illegal?
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I disagree. As demonstrated Obama does pick and chose laws he is willing to enforce when it comes to immigration. He does it now, why would anyone expect this to change?
I for 1 am for a step by step process rather than a large pork blunder. Requiring 100% E-verify is a good start.
Streamline the process would be another.
Make it impossible or at least very difficult to live here and as we have seen in states that crack down, illegals will self deport.
How can you trust the word of a man who parades a chemical engineer on stage and represents her as the average illegal?
Obama will be gone in 3 years. Most of the enforcement duties in the law would fall to the next president and subsequent ones. The clarion call of cheap labor, and the money that flows to the legislators at all levels from the businesses that benefit means it really doesn't matter. Any policy that depends on enforcement is doomed to fail no matter who is in office. There is no stopping illegal immigration. There was a story in the AZ press this week about how the new tidal wave coming across in AZ is not latin Americans but Indians.
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Obama will be gone in 3 years. Most of the enforcement duties in the law would fall to the next president and subsequent ones. The clarion call of cheap labor, and the money that flows to the legislators at all levels from the businesses that benefit means it really doesn't matter. Any policy that depends on enforcement is doomed to fail no matter who is in office. There is no stopping illegal immigration. There was a story in the AZ press this week about how the new tidal wave coming across in AZ is not latin Americans but Indians.
In which case why pass a porkster of a bill that is top heavy in waste and does very little if anything to address the actual problems?
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:27 PM
 
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Republican's cite that they can't even trust the President to even work towards the bill... I can't blame them... I wouldn't trust him either...

Republicans depart House immigration group
because why? I'm not disagreeing with you, but if you don't have any rational thoughts to back up your bias here, then you're just making other conservatives look bad.

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Obama will be gone in 3 years. Most of the enforcement duties in the law would fall to the next president and subsequent ones. The clarion call of cheap labor, and the money that flows to the legislators at all levels from the businesses that benefit means it really doesn't matter. Any policy that depends on enforcement is doomed to fail no matter who is in office. There is no stopping illegal immigration. There was a story in the AZ press this week about how the new tidal wave coming across in AZ is not latin Americans but Indians.
Very true. Nothing will happen either way. We had the House, Senate and POTUS for most of the 2000's and nothing got done. It's just a good way to get the trailer park types in the base all fired up.
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Old 09-20-2013, 06:37 PM
 
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Like most of their so-called efforts at compromise, the bipartisan committee was all for show for the Republicans anyway. From your link:

"House Republican leaders already had made clear they planned to proceed with a step-by-step approach, not with a single big bill like Johnson and Carter's group had working on or like the Senate passed in June."

More pretend indignation from the right about the collapse of a group whose findings they had no intention of paying any attention to anyway. Doesn't all that phony outrage get exhausting after a while?
yes, your phony outrage is totally exhausting.
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