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Old 09-22-2013, 12:49 PM
 
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In central Mexico, it's all-out war in the streets for control of an entire state that's run and terrorized by a drug cartel - NY Daily News

This is about the Mexican drug cartels and how they have taken over at least half of the country. I have heard from travel 'experts' that most of Mexico is safe to travel in. Take a look at the map in the beginning of the article. That does not look safe to me.

The article says towns are trying to fight back. Then that statement is refuted by those who say those people who are supposedly defending their towns are also in with the cartels.

Could this happen here? I mean, they are in the military, they have paid off so many police, even in small town America. There are constant rumors about some politicians being bought off - probably to both look the other way and to be staunchly against legalization. Our military has on many occasions been caught supplying arms to them, so that's probably an ongoing thing. Cartels have kidnapped people in the US and brought them across the border for ransom.

Maybe having so many citizens armed is a good thing?

. . . products travel north into the U.S., where 90% of illegal drugs emanate from Mexico, according to FBI statistics.

It's just impossible that so many drugs can enter this country without our government being in on it. Look at how few Muslim terrorist attacks there are. If we want to crack down on a situation we certainly can.

So, given that elements in the US are already playing ball with these idiots, what do we do about it?
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Old 09-22-2013, 12:53 PM
 
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We're short of war on the streets of Chicago right now, the Guvna has suggested National Guard on the streets.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...rld&id=9257472

Elements? Hummm, doesn't Mexico have GM, Ford and Chrysler assembly plants there? cheap labor. maybe not so cheap in Mexico's future?
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Old 09-22-2013, 01:05 PM
 
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We're short of war on the streets of Chicago right now, the Guvna has suggested National Guard on the streets.

Governor of Illinois open to using National Guard to fight gun violence in Chicago | abc13.com

Elements? Hummm, doesn't Mexico have GM, Ford and Chrysler assembly plants there? cheap labor. maybe not so cheap in Mexico's future?
Yes and much of that war in chigago is about drugs from Mexico. The sinaloa cartel controls chicago.
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Old 09-22-2013, 01:26 PM
 
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it has happened here, in chicago in the 1920s and 30s. the gangs fought the cops for many years trying to take over chicago.
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Old 09-22-2013, 01:31 PM
 
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it has happened here, in chicago in the 1920s and 30s. the gangs fought the cops for many years trying to take over chicago.
And it seems it's still going on there!
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Old 09-22-2013, 01:33 PM
 
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Yes and much of that war in chigago is about drugs from Mexico. The sinaloa cartel controls chicago.
The war in Chicago is as much about drugs, as it is about turf, only people who have ever lived in Chicago know this. No one cartel owns anything in Chicago.

You should educate yourself.

ChicagoGangs.org Website

ChicagoGangs.org Website
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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The war in Chicago is as much about drugs, as it is about turf, only people who have ever lived in Chicago know this. No one cartel owns anything in Chicago.

You should educate yourself.

ChicagoGangs.org Website

ChicagoGangs.org Website
War in Chicago?

Please tell me this is a joke or are you guys actually this ignorant?
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:38 PM
 
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The US security apparatus is better at breaking up organized criminal operations than Mexico, but is pretty ineffective at stopping smaller, more disorganized gangs from warring with each other.

You wouldn't see a Mexican-style cartel "takeover" of a particular city. Instead, you'd have a situation like New Orleans with dozens of "sets" shooting at each other over territory, money, disrespect, etc., and end up with a murder rate just as bad as many parts of the Mexican drug corridor, but with less organization at the top. That's how these things work in the US.
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:40 PM
 
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Yes and much of that war in chigago is about drugs from Mexico. The sinaloa cartel controls chicago.
No foreign cartel controls Chicago. At best, you can say that they might be the main suppliers, but they have NO JUICE on the streets.

As to the main question "can it happen here?" You bet your ass it could, but i doubt it would.

Anything that happens anywhere else can happen here. The United States doesn't have immunity.
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:43 PM
 
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Yes I believe this could be in our future, the very near future. People talk about this, but then they're called conspiracy theorist.
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