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Old 09-25-2013, 08:09 AM
 
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Maybe you should consider that the House is where the budget starts and the {R}s are using parlimentray rules in the Senate.
This requires logic.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:24 AM
 
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Agree 100%.

rethugs care about party politics ONLY. They dont give a damn about 45 states in the US where the economy is imploding.
If you dems think your winning the presidency is the yard stick we use to measure the control and direction of the nation, then why, after 5 years, are we worse off then we were before Obama was elected?

Obama, after almost five years as president, gave us $6 trillion in new deb, and what does he have to sow for it??? Millions of people out of work, and millions more new people living in poverty, and the federal reserve is forced to pump a trillion dollars a year into the stock market just to keep it afloat?????

You can satisfy yourself by doing the butter churn because Obama was reelected, but it gets us nothing. We are none the better for any of it, we the people are worse off, both domestically and internationally.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:29 AM
 
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I don't understand what your talking about, the house passed a budget to keep government running.

Don't forget
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.” …….. Senator Barack Obama
And let's not forget this golden words, and then Obama adds more "irresponsible and unpatriotic" debt in 3.5 years, then Bush added in eight:

The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents -- number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back -- $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic,” Obama said on July 3, 2008, at a campaign event in Fargo, N.D.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:30 AM
 
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*sigh*

When you lose the popular vote in the House but still have more seats, that's your factual evidence.

Keep trying.
The ignorance is astounding..
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:48 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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Just for accuracy's sake:

The 2012 election was a big success for the Democrats.

In addition to retaining the presidency by a wide margin, they extended their senate majority and solidly reduced the GOP house majority.


Typical leftist. The only thing that matters is the federal government. Never mind the fact that the Republicans controll amjority of the state governments.

It's alll about central planning and social engineering.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:51 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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You forget the sleight of hand that was used by the Senate to introduce the bill. So much for the Constitution. Your Democrats have no respect for the Constitution.

Democrats and liberals have no respect for anything but the advancement of thier warped, perverse, degenrate worldview. They're nothing but a gaggle of reprobates.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:52 AM
 
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Contrary to what the GOP says, it is affordable and lowers the cost.

Obamacare's average monthly cost across U.S.: $328

Texas has been among the Republican-led states most fiercely opposed to Obamacare, but its monthly rates came in below the national average, HHS said. In Austin, Texas, with 76 plans to choose from, a 27-year-old would pay $169 per month for the lowest cost mid-tier plan. In Dallas-Fort Worth, with 43 plans to choose from, that price was $217 per month, the report said.
"The rates in Texas are looking good," said Gary Cohen, who is charged with overseeing the exchanges at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:53 AM
 
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Democrats and liberals have no respect for anything but the advancement of thier warped, perverse, degenrate worldview. They're nothing but a gaggle of reprobates.
Sounds like you got the world figured out. Congratulations!
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Old 09-25-2013, 09:05 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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Sounds like you got the world figured out. Congratulations!

Thanks for noticing.
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Old 09-25-2013, 09:08 AM
 
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Contrary to what the GOP says, it is affordable and lowers the cost.

Obamacare's average monthly cost across U.S.: $328

Texas has been among the Republican-led states most fiercely opposed to Obamacare, but its monthly rates came in below the national average, HHS said. In Austin, Texas, with 76 plans to choose from, a 27-year-old would pay $169 per month for the lowest cost mid-tier plan. In Dallas-Fort Worth, with 43 plans to choose from, that price was $217 per month, the report said.
"The rates in Texas are looking good," said Gary Cohen, who is charged with overseeing the exchanges at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
Once this gets rolling and people who have been denied coverage for years suddenly have affordable options with none of the dire predictions coming true, it will become apparent just how thoroughly the GOP has doomed itself. It will be interesting to see how hard they push for repeal during the 2014 campaign, as that would mean taking insurance away from people who now have it--truly a losing political prospect.

If the GOP was smart, knowing they can't stop it, they would garner some goodwill by working to address some of the glitches to make it run more smoothly. But alas, the GOP has proven it isn't all that smart. I have no doubt the Tea Party will egg them on to political suicide by continuing the drumbeat of repeal, repeal, repeal. And unless the adults in the GOP get over their terror of this minority group and actually step up to lead, they march on to their own doom.
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