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Old 09-25-2013, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Is this a normal occurrence? I'm more of a moderate, but I'm starting to understand libertarian/conservative views when it comes to public policy and economics. I'm still very much liberal socially(this includes gun rights).
Typically, with increasing age, comes increasing wisdom.

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Old 09-25-2013, 09:56 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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The older I get the more libertarian I am socially...I just don't give a damn what other people get up to as long as I don't have to pay for it.

I also get more cynical and less trusting. I think all politicians are liars.
 
Old 09-25-2013, 10:23 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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The older I get the more libertarian I am socially...I just don't give a damn what other people get up to as long as I don't have to pay for it.

I also get more cynical and less trusting. I think all politicians are liars.

It's too bad more Americans don't have the balls to becoem libertarians. With great personal freedom comes great personal respoonsibiility but we're a nation full of pansies waiting for the govt to come wipe our asses.
 
Old 09-25-2013, 11:04 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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It's too bad more Americans don't have the balls to becoem libertarians. With great personal freedom comes great personal respoonsibiility but we're a nation full of pansies waiting for the govt to come wipe our asses.
I'm not a libertarian either. I just use the libertarian label to describe my views on social issues because it's the most accurate. It's not entirely accurate.

I'm left of center overall, but no mainstream party really fits my views. I cross the aisle all the time when I vote.
 
Old 09-25-2013, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Limbo
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It is happening to me too. I'm not that old, mind you. I'm staying, and will stay, very liberal on social issues, but am becoming more fiscally conservative. It isn't that I'm overly concerned about the national debt or deficit, rather that I know what it takes to budget and not waste. Waste, be it government or otherwise, is bad.
 
Old 09-25-2013, 11:32 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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I was quite conservative when I was younger.... college days and for about 10 years after that. I went to a very conservative college. But as I've grown older, I've definitely gotten more liberal. I'm in my 60s now and I can't see myself voting for a Republican any time soon. So, I guess I'm an exception to the rule.
 
Old 09-25-2013, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I was quite conservative when I was younger.... college days and for about 10 years after that. I went to a very conservative college. But as I've grown older, I've definitely gotten more liberal. I'm in my 60s now and I can't see myself voting for a Republican any time soon. So, I guess I'm an exception to the rule.
Growing up in a conservative military city with a conservative family, I was much more conservative when I was younger, though I registered independent. The more right wing the Republicans have gotten, the less interest I have had with that party.
 
Old 09-25-2013, 11:42 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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I came from a blue collar working family (non-union). My stepdad was an electrican by trade, and his company initially had a union but they threw the union out. My parents weren't involved politically, and it wasn't until I was on my own that I really started to follow politics. I guess when I was younger I was a bit more liberal. As it stands at 40, the older I get the more libertarian I have become. Because quite frankly I'm sick of those who subscribe to the progressive group think (republican or democrat) mentality that is plaguing this country right now in thinking that they know what is best for myself, my family, or society! At any rate, maybe it was good that my parents really didn't align with either one of the mainstream parties, and it's probably why I don't myself. I know my wife was more to the left (her dad was a union elevator mechanic) but she has since moved more toward being a libertarian. I can tell because she is a recruiter, and constantly gets calls from potential recruits with the attitude that she is obligated to interview them, or to hire them, and she gets totally annoyed by the entitlement mentality. She also supports the rights of gun owners. Not to mention she has lived with me for 13 years.

We both voted for the Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson in the last presidential election.
 
Old 09-25-2013, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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I think it is natural, but all to a degree. And I love the Churchill quote, but don't really agree.

It seems to me that moving from flaming socialist towards the center is a sign of maturity. On the other hand, turning from a centrist to a noisy, right wing parrot is a sign of senility. If is occurs before the age of 70, I would say it is also a sign of "low candlepower." Centrists run the world, and make it better over time. Zealots on either side are usually more just blowing hot air.

This old liberal is still moving right, but I am still left of center. And I strongly suspect I will stay there. That said, I enjoy a conversation with a center or center right person, as I often learn something new.
 
Old 09-25-2013, 12:50 PM
 
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Is this a normal occurrence? I'm more of a moderate, but I'm starting to understand libertarian/conservative views when it comes to public policy and economics. I'm still very much liberal socially(this includes gun rights).
I was a liberal in my 20's. A few decades later, I look back and say "Wow, was I ever stupid!"

There's been a lot of commentary over the years, with lots of overused quotes. I won't bother repeating them.

However, what's different? Is that you learn to know yourself, you mature, and more importantly, you hopefully learn something called "delayed gratification". It means you're willing to prioritize your life and actions responsibly, and learn to do the right things first, so you can enjoy the fruits of what you do later.

The reason liberals insist on government doing things, is that they don't want to re-order their lives, disrupt their social life, and change their habits. They want the government to re-order the world for them, so they don't have to be responsible, they can just continue to live without worrying about having to do the right thing or about their future - as in, being responsible now, for future needs for themselves.

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