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And please tell me how making all citizens get the SAME health insurance, dictated by the government, is NOT demanding equal for all?
What ObamaCare IS is a disaster of a program, that will do nothing to improve healthcare OR health insurance to Americans. What it IS is a program that will bring about the destruction of a healthcare system that was envied by all. What it IS is a program that will give less healthcare options to those that couldn't afford it anyway. What it IS is a program that exempts the chosen few, and costs the middle class.
In what universe is a healthcare plan that costs MORE per month, with a higher deductible, a BETTER option?
The whole thing is something straight out of the communist manifesto.
I think that's an excellent point. But from the other side, with insurance at least picking up part of the tab, they are in a much better position to pay the bill, even if it is in the form of installment payments. And if those bills ARE getting paid, then healthcare providers don't need to inflate costs. No more $43.00 aspirins.
As if that will actually happen? The freaking government is involved. Of COURSE costs will be inflated.
As if that will actually happen? The freaking government is involved. Of COURSE costs will be inflated.
Costs are so inflated now that if we don't implement some method of controlling costs, healthcare will bankrupt our nation. How do you propose containing those costs? Hint: a free market approach will NOT work, because it's HEALTHCARE, where privacy limits transparency and hence competition, and where the choice, healthcare or no healthcare can mean healthcare or death. The healthcare industry knows that people will buy their product, because the alternative is not tenable, and since they can keep their costs and pricing opaque, they don't have to lower prices. So what's your solution?
Not really. If anything, it is mitigating some of the innate injustice in society. Economic injustice in society has doubled in a generation. That accounts for a lot these issues, though to be fair, even a generation ago there were problems like this - but at least then things were heading toward a more just society. Now the right-wing has cut the legs out under justice and made things that much worse. ACA is a very natural response to the right-wing's efforts to double economic injustice for the second time in as many generations.
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And please tell me how making all citizens get the SAME health insurance, dictated by the government, is NOT demanding equal for all?
Have you stopped beating your wife?
Reword your question without the putrid nonsense of presuming your own assumptions and maybe it'll be worth replying to. The fact that you didn't even realize that you built into your question such presumption (because I doubt any reasonable person would do that knowingly) is very telling.
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Originally Posted by ringwise
What ObamaCare IS is a disaster of a program, that will do nothing to improve healthcare OR health insurance to Americans.
Bull. That's ridiculous denial. ACA has already locked in some major gains: Even Republicans are publicly promising to protect and safeguard its Guaranteed Issue provisions. Beyond that, 25 million Americans who couldn't afford healthcare this year will be able to afford healthcare next year. Stop denying the reality that ACA is already doing much of what it was actually intended to do.
The fact is that it was never intended to make you personally happy. You're just going to have to accept that.
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The whole thing is something straight out of the communist manifesto.
I have to start building a list of inane stock responses from right wingers. #1 will be "It's communism!" No, it isn't. You're just spewing nonsense because you cannot bring yourself to admit that the United States has long had a hybrid economy which includes things that don't serve the kind of egoistic avarice of the right-wing.
Bull. That's ridiculous denial. ACA has already locked in some major gains: Even Republicans are publicly promising to protect and safeguard its Guaranteed Issue provisions. Beyond that, 25 million Americans who couldn't afford healthcare this year will be able to afford healthcare next year. Stop denying the reality that ACA is already doing much of what it was actually intended to do.
bull...
''''25 million who couldnt afford insurance'''....still wont be able to afford it
Costs are so inflated now that if we don't implement some method of controlling costs, healthcare will bankrupt our nation. How do you propose containing those costs? Hint: a free market approach will NOT work, because it's HEALTHCARE, where privacy limits transparency and hence competition, and where the choice, healthcare or no healthcare can mean healthcare or death. The healthcare industry knows that people will buy their product, because the alternative is not tenable, and since they can keep their costs and pricing opaque, they don't have to lower prices. So what's your solution?
One of several reasons healthcare has gone up so fast and so much can be tracked back a few years to when they knew their profits were going to be legislated. They made the decision then and there that they would wring out as much profit as possible prior to this monstrosity knowing it'd be much harder afterwards.
Another reason (which is obvious) is getting their prices up high enough that when they're frozen they're at a high level already.
Another reason is that insurance was not allowed to cross state lines.
We're reaping what we sowed.
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