How are school vouchers a bad thing? (death, brainwashing, solutions)

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by lvoc

K-12 funding is primarily a state and local function. Feds are pretty much irrelevant

Not at all.

The Federal budget includes $85.1 billion for K-12 spending.


Source: Huffington Post

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[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by Think4Yourself

As long as a single penny of taxpayer money gets spent on religious schools I will be against vouchers.

Why? It's a proven fact that holy order Catholic schools educate students the best, even when SES is accounted for:
Are Private Schools Really Better? - TIME

Apparently, you prefer a dumbed-down populace, as do many Democrats. Democrats' highest percentage voter base is the least educated. That's how they win elections.




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[lvoc]

You are still misleading. That is what 12 or 13% of the amount expended om K12. And mostly with distinct targets.

Ahh at last we see how you will solve the problem. We send all the kids to order run catholic schools.

And it does not cost anything. All we do is pray together to increase the number of vocations to the holy orders by two or three orders of magnitude.

[Katarina Witt]

IC, I see you didn't look at my link. I'm not as computer literate as you, I'll give you that. Since I can't show the picture, I'll tell it instead.

US average:

According to National Center for Education Statistics (NCES), the national total revenues in 2008 were broken down as follows:

Local government: 44%
State government: 48%
Federal government: 8%

Note: May not add up to 100% due to rounding.

As I said, that 8% includes the student lunch program.

Now for my state:

Public School Finance | CDE
You might want to take a look at this link, too:
Gifted and Talented Education | CDE

[crone]

Nearly everyone complains about the DOE.

IMO, any school board in the country can say we don't want and federal funding. They could all cut their budgets 8% and do away with programs we all complain about. I tried to point it out to my ISD. If they object to the programs, just turn down the money.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by crone

Nearly everyone complains about the DOE.

IMO, any school board in the country can say we don't want and federal funding. They could all cut their budgets 8% and do away with programs we all complain about. I tried to point it out to my ISD. If they object to the programs, just turn down the money.

Good point. So, why don't local school boards eschew federal requirements and choose to actually EDUCATE their students?

[lvoc]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Good point. So, why don't local school boards eschew federal requirements and choose to actually EDUCATE their students?

Because federal requirements have virtually nothing to do with how schools actually educate children?

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Good point. So, why don't local school boards eschew federal requirements and choose to actually EDUCATE their students?

You don't get it. Much of that 8% goes to school lunches.

[Volobjectitarian]

Our entire public education system is designed incorrectly from the ground up, starting with it being public. All schools should be private, period. If the government has a compelling interest in educating its populace, then build libraries (or provide the Internet Age equivalent) and be done with it. No more public funded day care, no more public funded indoctrination into junior socialism, no more education bureaucracy nonsense. Make all schools private, let competition and the profit motive increase quality and lower price, and let people be free to become as smart or as dumb as they like.

Then, if you have kids and want them educated, go ahead and get that done any way you like, it's your freaking dime. The atheist is no longer supporting the parochial school, the libertarian is no longer supporting socialist indoctrination, the hippie is no longer forced to have Moonbeam Jr learning fascist things like math and science, and the religious zealot no longer has to have their little angel learning blasphemy about the Big Bang and evolution. Find a school, tutor or library that serves your education needs, and pony up your own cash to have that education go however you want.

Under that model, nobody is losing any 1st Amendment protected rights, and I bet our education is better all the way around.

[Katarina Witt]

The constitution of EVERY state guarantees a free public education to each child, though in slightly different language.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...63808443,d.aWc
**Today, every state constitution contains an education provision. **