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If you are talking about the charter schools... schools for profit, there is no control as to where the money goes. So when you have Jeb Bush earning millions each year because he brought them into existence, it seems a bit shady. They are also the first to eliminate the programs that aren't profitable, like things that serve the kids that aren't in the mainstream.
It is no different than a privatized post office... the un profitable routes will be eliminated and the rural areas will be cut off, with no alternate option given.
The U.S. spends the most on education, but our students lag their international peers. And we have a much smaller percentage of advanced students than other OECD countries.
So, again... additional proof that "more spending and increased financial resources – doesn’t actually translate to improvements in student achievement as measured by standardized test scores."
The current problem is one people refuse to discuss and that is that student quality determines school quality.
I'm going to have to call BS on that. If that were true, the U.S. would have approximately the same percentage of advanced students as do other OECD countries. We don't. And it's not because Americans are inferior to the citizens of those other countries. It's because of our extremely mismanaged public schools and the horrendously bad education ideology they implement.
The U.S. spends the most on education, but our students lag their international peers. And we have a much smaller percentage of advanced students than other OECD countries.
So, again... additional proof that "more spending and increased financial resources – doesn’t actually translate to improvements in student achievement as measured by standardized test scores."
Schools spend a lot of money at the administrative level. There is a district close to us with 6600 kids enrolled that has a superintendent, an associate superintendent and an assistant superintendent, 6 people on the accounting staff.
Another part of the problem is that children in other countries are expected to go to school and do well.
Schools spend a lot of money at the administrative level. There is a district close to us with 6600 kids enrolled that has a superintendent, an associate superintendent and an assistant superintendent, 6 people on the accounting staff.
Unwise spending. Exactly.
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Another part of the problem is that children in other countries are expected to go to school and do well.
What makes you think an equally high percentage of U.S. students aren't also wishing to be high achievers? Yet, they cannot be because U.S. public schools have foolishly implemented education ideology that mixes all students together regardless of competency level, and then dumbs down the top students to cater to the struggling.
It's the exact opposite of what happens at U.S. public universities. Students are admitted to public universities based on achievement and merit. It's NOT easy to get admitted to UC Berkeley, UCLA, UVA, Michigan, UNC, UIUC, UW-Madison, etc... Consequently, we have some of the best public universities in the world.
However, K-12 in the U.S. is NOT implemented that way, even though it could be by grouping students in classes within schools by skill/ability level and therefore more specifically targeting instruction to move ALL students forward. So... our K-12 public schools rank much lower than that of other countries.
If you are talking about the charter schools... schools for profit, there is no control as to where the money goes. So when you have Jeb Bush earning millions each year because he brought them into existence, it seems a bit shady. They are also the first to eliminate the programs that aren't profitable, like things that serve the kids that aren't in the mainstream.
It is no different than a privatized post office... the un profitable routes will be eliminated and the rural areas will be cut off, with no alternate option given.
Hey what us wrong with making a profit, as long as the kids are being educated and learning why care?
once again some schools will server some wants and programs some will not, just like how same fast food chains carry Coke and some carry Pepsi.
Futhermore education is a need, this idea that some areas will be with out schools is a joke.
I would support them if anyone could get them, but they are only being given out to certain people.
That is an issue too. When my daughter was going to college in Denver, she said she noticed that her professors seemed to manage to get their kids into these "magnets", "charters", etc that were all supposed to be by lottery! How does that work?
That is an issue too. When my daughter was going to college in Denver, she said she noticed that her professors seemed to manage to get their kids into these "magnets", "charters", etc that were all supposed to be by lottery! How does that work?
How? Not sure, think you can do better? Start a school, run it for a profit with your ideals.
That is an issue too. When my daughter was going to college in Denver, she said she noticed that her professors seemed to manage to get their kids into these "magnets", "charters", etc that were all supposed to be by lottery! How does that work?
The same way any other program works....
word of mouth, friends of friends, being in the loop, networking, being in the right group.
Schools are little bureaucracies within themselves.
Magnet slots as well as teaching positions in highly regarded schools can many a time already be filled before that "public notice" is put out.
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