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Old 09-28-2013, 05:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by NoJiveMan View Post
It's difficult sometimes for people to see both sides of an incident, like posting (oh the property owners rights were violated by a trespasser! omg)

If some people could just think their way out of a brown paper bag!!

right now, I see it as he said this and the other guy said that, and oddly enough, only 3 people involved, and no other witnesses, it's always like that, which is why we have courts and judges.
Donald was suffering a serious case of big guns, small brains. Firstly, why the hell involve the authorities in the first place? The township is in the middle of nowhere. Normal people in such situations would have argued it out in private. Secondly, the fact of the matter is he forcibly escorted the other man, under threat of harm, onto his property. Thirdly, Donald is lucky he didn't have other charges thrown at him which would have been harder to defeat. Right now, it looks like the judge might go easy on him based on the current charges, but Donald handled the situation the wrong way in all ways. Some people are failing to see the other side of the coin and only see "omg, property rights were violated!" what about the other person's right to be free from bodily harm or under threat of bodily harm? All too often people forget about the other person
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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If I was the kids parent I wouldn't sue. I'd go over and kick the dudes arse. Any 44 year old man that threatens a kid with a gun is a coward.
What "kid"?

Did you not read the story? The trespasser was a man.
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:35 PM
 
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If I was the kids parent I wouldn't sue. I'd go over and kick the dudes arse. Any 44 year old man that threatens a kid with a gun is a coward.
The guy on the dirt bike wasn't a kid.
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:36 PM
 
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With what? The shotgun was unloaded.

It must have been one of those scary "assault" type shotguns that liberals want to ban because they can fire themselves, right?
You don't know? Magic Bullets of course.......... if you have a shot gun and you have magic bullets you can do anything... Just pretend, thats how the *******s do it
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:38 PM
 
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It very much does matter, if you don't want to bump in to anyone holding a shotgun you shouldn't trespass on someone's property during hunting season.
He didn't' simply bump into this guy. He, allegedly, "escorted" him at gunpoint and under threat of his property being destroyed

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He was carrying a shotgun on his own land, perfectly legal.
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A dirt bike rider shows up, not legal.
Not necessarily. To be unlawful trespassing, the person has to have been made aware that his presence is forbidden.

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What do you think this landowner should have done with his shotgun when this trespasser showed up?
There are many things he could do with his shotgun. What he certainly should not do is escort him to a different location at gunpoint and under threat.

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Old 09-28-2013, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Not only that, but threatening to shoot out his tires while he's riding on it can be recklessly endangering another person as well. Donald ****ed up, big time, no matter how you slice it. He could have done what any other normal country person would have done (at least where I grew up) and just let it slide and not involve the cops. I would not have called the cops of some kid was just innocently transiting across my property. No different from a big animal walking across and stepping on my stuff. I grew up in the country unlike the OP and his co-thinkers, Donald was a moron
What the hell? When did we start protecting the criminals and arresting the good guys? Why do we have so many defending these actions? Aren't you the same people that scream about civil liberty?
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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These folks can sue, and another illegal thing the cops did was have the guys wife delete the file. Cops don't like it but there is no law against filming them in the act of breaking the law. The guy with the gun was stupid to have the gun not loaded.

He should have just taken the bad boys bike and then made him walk with out it. No gun at all or not visible anyway. Then call the cops in a day or so..... But now they can sue for false arrest and make money.
BINGO, that's what this is really about. Fine everybody and the county pot grows fatter. That is theft.
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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He still had the gun in his hands when the police showed up. This indicates that he was using the gun to intimidate and threaten the trespasser into compliance. Trespassing is not a felony.

You are allowed to hold a gun on your own freaking property! He unloaded it, so the officers wouldn't view him as a threat - that didn't help him any.
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:00 PM
 
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The trespasser should consider himself to be fortunate that he wasn't involved in a tragic hunting accident wherein
he appeared out of nowhere just as the landowner was shooting the evening meal.
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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It certainly does when fools here start to call him a "kid" to get sympathy and attention for him.
One of the articles referred to him as a teenager - he looks full grown to me. Do you know how old he is, and what difference does it make?????
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