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Old 09-29-2013, 09:00 AM
 
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The GOP is working to change the law. Not simply dismissing it like Obama did when he postponed the requirements for corporations.

We've made more and more promises despite knowing we did not have the money since the last budget debate. It's a lie to state that this is all money that has already been promised.

I happen to think that the law needs work; however, I don't think making changes by forcing a shutdown is the way to go about it.

My point, in regard to the OP's statement, wacko Wendy Davis filibustered on a proposal. This is different from creating a government shutdown. I just don't think you can compare these two scenarios and make the claim that they are the same.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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I do not support abortion but all the same I dislike false narratives also. It was not the law when she filibustered. She did that to try and keep it from being the law.


Aren't Republicans trying to keep Obamacare from "being the law"?

FTR, being the law hasn't prevent our Dear Leader and law unto himself from altering the implementation of Obamacare without any Constitutionally authorized changes to the wording of a law that was "deemed to be passed" (see Scott Brown).


The bottom line is libs are squealing about the defunding of Obamacare because they know they already shot their wad getting it to Obama's desk in blatant defiance of the will of the people.

Fighting to fund wildly unpopular Obamacare even as hard-working Americans are converted to part-time status, the employer mandate is delayed and Democratic cronies are exempted will be the end of even more Democrat's political careers, and they know it.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:18 AM
 
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I happen to think that the law needs work; however, I don't think making changes by forcing a shutdown is the way to go about it.

My point, in regard to the OP's statement, wacko Wendy Davis filibustered on a proposal. This is different from creating a government shutdown. I just don't think you can compare these two scenarios and make the claim that they are the same.
The OP never brought up the budget. You did.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:19 AM
 
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Aren't Republicans trying to keep Obamacare from "being the law"?

FTR, being the law hasn't prevent our Dear Leader and law unto himself from altering the implementation of Obamacare without any Constitutionally authorized changes to the wording of a law that was "deemed to be passed" (see Scott Brown).


The bottom line is libs are squealing about the defunding of Obamacare because they know they already shot their wad getting it to Obama's desk in blatant defiance of the will of the people.

Fighting to fund wildly unpopular Obamacare even as hard-working Americans are converted to part-time status, the employer mandate is delayed and Democratic cronies are exempted will be the end of even more Democrat's political careers, and they know it.
I never complained about what they are doing.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Aren't Republicans trying to keep Obamacare from "being the law"?

FTR, being the law hasn't prevent our Dear Leader and law unto himself from altering the implementation of Obamacare without any Constitutionally authorized changes to the wording of a law that was "deemed to be passed" (see Scott Brown).


The bottom line is libs are squealing about the defunding of Obamacare because they know they already shot their wad getting it to Obama's desk in blatant defiance of the will of the people.

Fighting to fund wildly unpopular Obamacare even as hard-working Americans are converted to part-time status, the employer mandate is delayed and Democratic cronies are exempted will be the end of even more Democrat's political careers, and they know it.
No, the ACA is already the law. It signed into law in 2010.

Davis was trying to prevent a law from being passed, not trying to defund an existing law.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:33 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The recent Texas law restricting abortion past the 20 week time frame is a perfect example.

Leftie wacko Wendy Davis filibustered the Texas legislature and was crowned "super heroic" for standing up to what she sees as a bad law.

Hey lefties....win elections in Texas!

Elections have consequences.

She certainly wasn't of the mindset of "oh well, it's the law!", now was she?
Are you kidding?

Leftists make rules for other people, not for themselves. "You must accept the law of the land" is a prime example.

For themselves, "The law of the land" is whatever they want people (other than themselves) to do. Doesn't even matter if it's written down or duly passed.

Note that Chimuelojones even complains about a written and duly passed law in Texas. Since it's different from the standard leftist talking points, he finds some other law that's closer to what he wants, and demands that the Texas Legislature change its law to conform to the other!
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:35 AM
 
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No, the ACA is already the law. It signed into law in 2010.

Davis was trying to prevent a law from being passed, not trying to defund an existing law.
The House is asking for individuals to be treated the same as Obama has treated corporations only they want to do it legally.
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Old 09-29-2013, 09:45 AM
 
Location: texas
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Of course not. "Expediency" drives everything Democrats say. Not truth, not fact, not reality, not principle. Just whatever argument they can dream up at the moment.
was it not fact that the law in Texas was that late term abortions were restricted after the 24th week of gestation? Was that not a Fact?

Is it not also fact the the Texas legislature moved the term to begin in the 20th week?
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Old 09-29-2013, 10:13 AM
 
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By this logic blacks would still be slaves and women would not be allowed to vote. Those were laws at one time too.
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