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Old 09-30-2013, 08:03 AM
 
Location: texas
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Who's hand does he need to hold?

 
Old 09-30-2013, 08:03 AM
 
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Doing any thing to delay slow down or repeal ACA is not a compromise

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Republicans have tried 43 times to repeal ACA 43 and failed everything signal time they trying once again and will fail this time. After the 2 or 3rd time they should have moved on these guy really do not care about the rest of the country they only care about there own party
 
Old 09-30-2013, 08:06 AM
 
Location: texas
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The shut down is as much a fault of the Democrats as the Republicans. MAYBE a bit more on the Democrats side.. Neither side is willing to Truly Negotiate, the Republican held house is willing to go from a total defunding, to a 1 year halt, but Reid in the Senate says he refuses to accept ANYTHING but leaving it alone. What would have happened had the house simply said, "We will accept ZERO change in our bill", and simply struck Reid's changes, and sent it back in it's original form?

It's sad, no negotiation, not willing to accept anything but what he wants, and where is our leader, the President.. Well, he's bad mouthing the only group willing to negotiate, and backing the group who is acting like a dead car. Unwilling to start, unwilling to budge.
How silly. Republicans sent up a bill defunding ACA, now they want to delay it. Will the next bill offered be to change it's name?
 
Old 09-30-2013, 08:06 AM
 
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The shut down is as much a fault of the Democrats as the Republicans. MAYBE a bit more on the Democrats side.. Neither side is willing to Truly Negotiate, the Republican held house is willing to go from a total defunding, to a 1 year halt, but Reid in the Senate says he refuses to accept ANYTHING but leaving it alone. What would have happened had the house simply said, "We will accept ZERO change in our bill", and simply struck Reid's changes, and sent it back in it's original form?

It's sad, no negotiation, not willing to accept anything but what he wants, and where is our leader, the President.. Well, he's bad mouthing the only group willing to negotiate, and backing the group who is acting like a dead car. Unwilling to start, unwilling to budge.
That is not a negotiation.

How is that a negotiation?

The Democratic party which in the elections 11months ago won the Presidency and gain seats in both houses of Congress and which received more total votes in both houses of Congress and who Presidential nominee won by 5 million votes, gets nothing out of this compromise.

While the conservative party gets to destroy healthcare.

What is the negotiation?

All parties agree the government has to be funded. The Democratic party is not demanding for concessions from conservatives to cast that their votes to fund the government.

The conservative party is demanding a huge concession from the Democratic party, and offering none of their own.

That is not a negotiation is any sense of the word negotiate.
 
Old 09-30-2013, 08:07 AM
 
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How is that compromise? The GOP isn't going to get everything they want, yet they think they can hold the country hostage to get everything they want.
Really, its not that difficult Urban..

A delay isnt what they want..

Once again I ask you, when I get my $10K a year in subsidies for my family, who will pay for it? WHY WONT YOU ANSWER?
 
Old 09-30-2013, 08:11 AM
 
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Really, its not that difficult Urban..

A delay isnt what they want..

Once again I ask you, when I get my $10K a year in subsidies for my family, who will pay for it? WHY WONT YOU ANSWER?
Who cares what they want.

The conservative party will eventually vote to fund the government this is objective reality. They all say the government has to be funded.

conservatives voting to fund the government is not a compromise to the Democratic party.

So what does the party that controls 2/3rds of the government get out of this compromise? Nothing.

See to people in the real world that means that it is not a compromise.
 
Old 09-30-2013, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Who cares what they want.

The conservative party will eventually vote to fund the government this is objective reality. They all say the government has to be funded.

conservatives voting to fund the government is not a compromise to the Democratic party.

So what does the party that controls 2/3rds of the government get out of this compromise? Nothing.

See to people in the real world that means that it is not a compromise.
If I were the Democrats, I would just sit back and wait for the Republicans to cave on this one.
 
Old 09-30-2013, 08:18 AM
 
Location: texas
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Really, its not that difficult Urban..

A delay isnt what they want..

Once again I ask you, when I get my $10K a year in subsidies for my family, who will pay for it? WHY WONT YOU ANSWER?
There is a .9 % tax[surtax] added medicare to those making over 200k a year.

http://invernesswealth.com/documents...nformation.pdf
 
Old 09-30-2013, 08:24 AM
 
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If I were the Democrats, I would just sit back and wait for the Republicans to cave on this one.
I would to. They can use the word compromise all they want.

There is no compromise. Oh President Obama and Democrats compromise to destroy their bill, while getting nothing in return.

And the conservatives in Congress who are going to vote to fund the government eventually gives up nothing.

To a sane person this is not a negotiation, not a both sides are doing it, This is conservatives acting insane.
 
Old 09-30-2013, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Well, the majority of Americans will blame the GOP if there is a shut down, and rightfully so.

Once again, Obama is playing things calm, cool, and collected and the regressive radical right just can't twist their heads around it.
With the media lying about who is really shutting things down, many Americans probably will. Of course those with more than half a brain know it's the Democrats refusing to pass the budget who are really doing it.

Of course Obama is out playing again, he doesn't know how to actually work.
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