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Old 09-30-2013, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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This is bizzaro world where rightwingers suddenly state that this debt ceiling standoff isn't about defunding Obamacare. The sooner Obamacare get's implemented the sooner they can get treatment for their delusions.
Outstanding!!
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Old 09-30-2013, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Ummm, except there weren't any parts IN it, that defunded Obamacare or anything else. Obamacare (or the ACA or anything similar) was never mentioned, anywhere in the bill.

It finally began to dawn on me: These screaming, enraged liberals, have never even read the bill!
They have no idea what is in it. ?
LIMITATION
.—No entitlement to benefits under
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any provision of the Patient Protection and Affordable
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Care Act (Public Law 111–148) or title I and subtitle B
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of title II of the Health Care and Education Reconciliation
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Act of 2010 (Public Law 111–152), or the amendments
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made by either such Act, shall remain in effect on and
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after the date of the enactment of this joint resolution,
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nor shall any payment be awarded, owed, or made to any
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State, District, or territory under any such provision.


If you check the link the OP linked, you will see that it is clearly mentioned, and not funded. Then again, screaming liberals won't read that link. Wait, you are the person that linked it.

That's hilarious.You trolled yourself.
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Old 09-30-2013, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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What happened to the sodomy laws in the next case? Oh, yeah, they were made void in every state. Nice try.
Yes, but that only happened because people did not take the advice that you gave Harrier, which was to accept the Supreme Court decision.

You seem to be rather selective as to which decision should be accepted, and which should be challenged,

To put a fine point as possible, you seem to think that anyone who disagrees with the constitutionality of Obamacare needs to "talk to the Supreme Court", yet the people who disagreed with the Bowers v Hardwick decision were perfectly justified in opposing the collective wisdom of the "nine".

Harrier would call such a stance hypocritical if he weren't such a nice guy.
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Old 09-30-2013, 01:01 PM
 
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You seem to be rather selective as to which decision should be accepted, and which should be challenged
You just described everyone.
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Old 09-30-2013, 01:01 PM
 
Location: California
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Why do people keep on with the claim that "nobody knows what in this law". It's 2000 pages. Surely you've read books that long before?

I assure you, many people know EXACTLY what's in this law.
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Old 09-30-2013, 01:01 PM
 
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Ram what through? It was signed into law over three years ago.

And if you were born yesterday, you might believe that this congress can "hash out" anything at all.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Amazing how many people don't even understand the basics!
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Old 09-30-2013, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Darn it - you copied and pasted faster than I could!

Yeah, it's obvious the complete bill was not read, or if it was, it was not completely understood. The GOP came up with a bill that funds the government, but it was anything BUT a "clean" bill. It's just their latest cowardly attempt to remove a law ... something that was passed by both the House and Senate, was signed by the President, and was found to be constitutional by the Supreme Court.

And I say "cowardly" because the GOP has to try and hide it, buried in a bill that would otherwise likely be approved across the board.
It's interesting that you call the GOP "cowards" in the same post that you crowed about the fact that the bill "was passed by both the House and Senate, was signed by the President", yet you completely failed to also disclose just how underhanded and dirty the Democrats played - even amongst their own party - to get the votes to pass it.

The people didn't (and still don't) want it. The politicians had to be BRIBED to vote for it. It's a disaster. You know that, but for some odd and unknown reason, you're still cheerleading for it. It's very strange.

Well, at least the cloud does have one silver lining. When it all goes to hell (and it will), we'll be able to come back, taunt you with it and remind you repeatedly that YOU wanted it. YOU demanded it. YOU supported it, before and after its passage, and YOU own it.
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Old 09-30-2013, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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One odd passage saying Frank Lautenberg's widow gets $170,000. And that was about it. Twenty pages long as it passed the House.


Awarding the family an amount equal to one year's tax free salary is a time honored unwritten non-partisan perk of Congressmen who die while in office.

Lautenberg's fortune has been estimated to be in the $50-100+ million range.
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Old 09-30-2013, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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It's interesting that you call the GOP "cowards" in the same post that you crowed about the fact that the bill "was passed by both the House and Senate, was signed by the President", yet you completely failed to also disclose just how underhanded and dirty the Democrats played - even amongst their own party - to get the votes to pass it.

The people didn't (and still don't) want it. The politicians had to be BRIBED to vote for it. It's a disaster. You know that, but for some odd and unknown reason, you're still cheerleading for it. It's very strange.

Well, at least the cloud does have one silver lining. When it all goes to hell (and it will),
we'll be able to come back, taunt you with it and remind you repeatedly that YOU wanted it. YOU demanded it. YOU supported it, before and after its passage, and YOU own it.
It will likely be as bad as Japan and Canada and France. Pure Hell On Earth.
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Old 09-30-2013, 01:06 PM
 
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The politicians had to be BRIBED to vote for it.
Oh boy. That's horrible! That's never happened before!
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