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Old 09-30-2013, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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The scientifically illiterate assign importance to this dudes analysis while dismissing the 99% who see things as they are.

What else should one expect?
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Old 09-30-2013, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Yep. those who don't spend time trudging the grant & research gravy train around tend to be 'outlied.
This is one of those unfounded accusations of fraud scientists should sue your sorry asses over, isn't it?
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Old 09-30-2013, 09:20 PM
 
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This is one of those unfounded accusations of fraud scientists should sue your sorry asses over, isn't it?
If you could understand just what it is that popular science and trumpeted studies were all about, you... wouldn't be you.

Allow me cut to this short. Could you explain to me why Al-Jazeera Gore sold his TV circuit to the oil sheiks of Qatar please?
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Old 09-30-2013, 09:48 PM
 
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This is one of those unfounded accusations of fraud scientists should sue your sorry asses over, isn't it?
To think politics, ideology and money do not play huge roles in science no matter which side of the argument is being given is being naive. Setting aside political and ideological bias completely is impossible as that is just human nature, money plays a role as those scientists depend on something to study to keep the cash rolling in. There is also those seeking the limelight.

Then we have this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/17/sc...orm.html?_r=3&

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Old 09-30-2013, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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'HILARIOUS": Top MIT scientist mocks newest UN climate report | The Daily Caller

Top MIT scientist: Newest UN climate report is ‘hilariously’ flawed

Not all scientists are panicking about global warming — one of them finds the alarmism “hilarious.”

A top climate scientist from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology lambasted a new report by the UN’s climate bureaucracy that blamed mankind as the main cause of global warming and whitewashed the fact that there has been a hiatus in warming for the last 15 years.

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I wonder how much he is being paid by The American Enterprise Institute...Is it more than the $10,000 offered in 2007?

Exxon-funded group
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Old 09-30-2013, 09:53 PM
 
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sanspeur, are you going to discount any sciencist or scientific organization that has sought or received funding from energy corporations?
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Old 09-30-2013, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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sanspeur, are you going to discount any sciencist or scientific organization that has sought or received funding from energy corporations?
That depends on their motives.
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:22 PM
 
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The scientifically illiterate assign importance to this dudes analysis while dismissing the 99% who see things as they are.

What else should one expect?
Coming from one dude who doesn't even know what "things are" just what is being explained to him by the ICPP in a, and I quote, "digestible way"..

Who is this "99%" you speak of?
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:27 PM
 
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Ummm......no, he is not one of the foremost researchers in the world, he is an outlier that has been thoroughly debunked.

There is one in every group.
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The scientifically illiterate assign importance to this dudes analysis while dismissing the 99% who see things as they are.

What else should one expect?
well well, i found a scientist that gets their money from government who i can trust. i would rather trust a scientist from one of the premier science schools in the WORLD, than the IPCC board of the UN.
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:34 PM
 
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To think politics, ideology and money do not play huge roles in science no matter which side of the argument is being given is being naive. Setting aside political and ideological bias completely is impossible as that is just human nature, money plays a role as those scientists depend on something to study to keep the cash rolling in. There is also those seeking the limelight.

Then we have this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/17/sc...orm.html?_r=3&
Yep, so let's just refer to science as a cool mysterious agnostic god and refer to anything scientific as something sacrosanct like a gospel since science is the natural purview of god. No thanks- just as vile as the theists' visions. Humans tend to gravitate to the same closed-loop patterns again and again when it comes to dependent faith and the only differences are the names; the base reliance stays about the same. God is now science, church is now government, president is now pope, landed lord is now employer. Satan is the obviously rich, of course, like the Kardashians but oddly enough not like Warren Buffett and the like. Hope springs eternal...

If it is popular and advertised it is almost definitely faked or at least directed to a specific outcome. What else are all those course hours for if not to train for a proper response to authorities' dogs? And this sort of practice covered (scantily) in the NYT is more common than not, but there is all that corporate and government money available so who cares? If anyone thinks that professors or researchers are some saintly priest caste pure in mind and deed, full of pure purity let me point toward the pre-cursors to all that hooey: Christianity, nobility and any form of government practiced anywhere at any time. Ever read The Red and the Black by Stendahl? All that meaningless sincerity, all that mimetic desire a-boil so as to be applauded for applauding something else that is being attended to (and I dislike most French 'geniuses').

It is the 1970's all over again except now we shall burn in man-made fire rather than freeze in the overdue Ice Age. For all the science bounding around the heads of people in this age it is amazing how easily so many keep falling back on religious tenets made by the new science-priests toiling away at alchemical lead-to-gold experiments that actually succeeded brilliantly in the case of the most revered Dr. Al-Jazeera Gore. Does anyone think Tipper is a mite jealous that those mandated stickers on album covers warning of bad word usage didn't take off in the same way? Tsk.
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